Cropping photos
Posted 24/09/2011 - 19:33
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You can only crop out the subject if you know what is there to be cropped out in teh first place... This image has to many confusing subjects in it...
Are you trying to capture the hanging basket, the sign, the balcony or the man??? Once you know this then you can decide what you need to crop..
Are you trying to capture the hanging basket, the sign, the balcony or the man??? Once you know this then you can decide what you need to crop..
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Posted 24/09/2011 - 19:54
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I crop a lot. Even with a zoom lens I seldom manage to frame a shot perfectly, and when I see it on screen I have a much clearer idea of what needs to be in the picture and what doesn't.
As Cabstar says, you need to be know what your subject is before you can make cropping decisions, and you should have known what the subject was when you tripped the shutter.
In this picture, if the man is the subject, I would crop from just above the sign to just below the hanging flowers, with a little bit off the sides to remove irrelevancies.
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As Cabstar says, you need to be know what your subject is before you can make cropping decisions, and you should have known what the subject was when you tripped the shutter.
In this picture, if the man is the subject, I would crop from just above the sign to just below the hanging flowers, with a little bit off the sides to remove irrelevancies.
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Posted 24/09/2011 - 22:59
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Best advice here is to join a camera club that has regular competitions, simply by listening to a judges comments even on other peoples images will improve your composition skills no end. But just remember at the end of the day you take pictures to please yourself and not someone else so dont be afraid to experiment.
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Posted 25/09/2011 - 23:23
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I remember my Dad telling me that a Photo should have only one thing in it. (He meant one message, of course).
Here's the Eiffel tower with Auntie May and a juggler: without looking at the photo you can predict it'll not be a good picture.
I remember standing on the Rialto Bridge, trying to get an interesting picture of it in a crowd of about a million tourists. A Scots woman, next to me, told her companion very loudly and with great authority: "A picture with nobody in it is boring". Auntie May and the Eiffel Tower rides again.
The only thing you should usually avoid cutting off it people's feet cos that will usually look like a mistake. Get in close for a start or you'll need to crop so much that you'll end up with a 2Mpixel picture to play with.
I reckon that applies even when you use a 14mm lens for a landscape.
Here's the Eiffel tower with Auntie May and a juggler: without looking at the photo you can predict it'll not be a good picture.
I remember standing on the Rialto Bridge, trying to get an interesting picture of it in a crowd of about a million tourists. A Scots woman, next to me, told her companion very loudly and with great authority: "A picture with nobody in it is boring". Auntie May and the Eiffel Tower rides again.
The only thing you should usually avoid cutting off it people's feet cos that will usually look like a mistake. Get in close for a start or you'll need to crop so much that you'll end up with a 2Mpixel picture to play with.
I reckon that applies even when you use a 14mm lens for a landscape.
Posted 25/09/2011 - 23:34
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I crop my pictures a lot also. The composition in my pictures is often moe important to me than the subjects. Granted, you can't have a good image if the subject matter is not right, but you can make a good picture into a stunning one with the right cropping.
I agree with cabstar on the examples you have posted. There's far too much going on and this particular image eithr needs a heavy crop (depending on what you are trying to achieve), or none at all.
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David
I agree with cabstar on the examples you have posted. There's far too much going on and this particular image eithr needs a heavy crop (depending on what you are trying to achieve), or none at all.
Regards
David
Posted 26/09/2011 - 07:38
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I never crop. Visualise and consider before pressing the button!
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Posted 26/09/2011 - 09:50
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gartmore wrote:
I never crop. Visualise and consider before pressing the button!
What if the visualisation requires a different aspect ratio, or moves too fast to frame properly, or a slightly longer lens...?I never crop. Visualise and consider before pressing the button!
(Relocating does not always replace using the right focal length, it changes the relative proportions of near & far objects)
I prefer not to crop, my K100d only has 6MP so I've not got much spare resolution. But sometimes to get the shot I'm after there is no choice.
Sometimes I see something new when the image is on the screen, & wish I could crop to a reasonable resolution of that portion.
Mike
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3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.
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Posted 26/09/2011 - 09:58
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With non-100% viewfinders it's also inevitable you're going to crop sometimes, depending on the subject. If you use a prime lens sometimes you have to compromise to take the shot, and a little cropping sorts it out later. It is perfectly possible to 'visualise' your image after cropping when you take it.
Posted 26/09/2011 - 10:50
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gartmore wrote:
I never crop. Visualise and consider before pressing the button!
Visualise and consider, does not mean no cropping in my case. I'm often too far away (or have too short a lens). I also find square photos often suit my subjects. I often know exactly what I want before pressing the button, but have to crop to achieve it.I never crop. Visualise and consider before pressing the button!
I did manage to avoid cropping in the olde days with slide film, and chose my subjects accordingly. I consider the ability to easily crop as progress, and a very handy addition to our tool box
Posted 26/09/2011 - 11:25
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gartmore wrote:
I never crop. Visualise and consider before pressing the button!
A nice ideal but not always achievable in practice. I have become addicted to square images and often visualize the crop as I take the image. Sometimes the lens isn't quite long enough, and you know you'll need to crop something out. With a 93% viewfinder you often get things in the edges that you didn't want. Sometimes you only have a split second to grab a shot which results in the need to trim something out. As a principle, it is an excellent one to try and aspire to (after all less cropping = more pixels which may equal better IQ...) but out of the studio it shouldn't be something that holds one back.I never crop. Visualise and consider before pressing the button!
K.
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It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
Posted 26/09/2011 - 13:58
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I usually crop to get around my own equipment inadequacies - I don't have every lens going.
As in, if there's a shot begging to be taken by a 400mm for maximum impact, and I've only got a 300mm, then I'd crop that to give a 400mm field of view.
The flipside would be not to take the pic cause I don't own the perfect lens for it. Beggars can't be choosers
As in, if there's a shot begging to be taken by a 400mm for maximum impact, and I've only got a 300mm, then I'd crop that to give a 400mm field of view.
The flipside would be not to take the pic cause I don't own the perfect lens for it. Beggars can't be choosers
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Posted 26/09/2011 - 14:52
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My editing typically involves slight tweak of exposure / black level, slight rotation to get horizons or vertical/horizontal references spot on (I never seem to get this perfect when taking the photo and it's something that really bugs me) then cropping to frame the image as I originally intended.
This may all mean I'm a rubbish photographer and hence rely on post processing. However, whilst I'm improving on my photography skills I'm happy to post process to make images I can be proud of.
Likewise, as others have also said, in addition to minor crops to frame an image nicely - I do crop to zoom; my current 200m lens isn't long enough for some shots but I'll happily drop some resolution in order to 'make' the photograph I had in my mind at the time I pressed the shutter.
This may all mean I'm a rubbish photographer and hence rely on post processing. However, whilst I'm improving on my photography skills I'm happy to post process to make images I can be proud of.
Likewise, as others have also said, in addition to minor crops to frame an image nicely - I do crop to zoom; my current 200m lens isn't long enough for some shots but I'll happily drop some resolution in order to 'make' the photograph I had in my mind at the time I pressed the shutter.
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I've got two examples below, uncropped then cropped slightly. (It's more for illustration of what I mean than the photo)
IMGP0447 (2) by ldsandford, on Flickr
IMGP0447 by ldsandford, on Flickr
What do you reckon? Do other people crop their photos a lot?