confused about exif information

scarr1
Posted 05/05/2014 - 23:20 Link
Hi all.
I like to look at the "your photos" section of the forum, and i normally look at the exif info.
Im a bit confused why the f/stop may be for example f16, but the aperture value may be f/8.
Why the two different values?
Excuse my ignorance if im missing something obvious here.
Cheers,
scarr1
Posted 05/05/2014 - 23:22 Link
That should have read "gallery photos".
johnriley
Posted 05/05/2014 - 23:59 Link
I'm assuming that aperture value might refer to the open aperture, which will vary with a zoom lens. The f/stop will be the actual aperture set.

So an f/2 lens perhaps set at f/8.

Do the actual figures confirm this possibility?
Best regards, John
Gamka
Posted 06/05/2014 - 00:34 Link
Don't think that is the case: Look at the recent images of the Yellow Wagtails.

Both at 300mm - the picture of the male has F-stop f/7.1 and Aperture Value of f/5.6, whereas the picture of the female has f/8 and f/6.

If JRs assertion was correct then the Aperture Value would be the same and given that the lens was a DA*300 it would be f/4.


If I look at teh EXIF data for teh first externally it gives:

F Number F7.1
Aperture 5.66 Av (F7.1)

So is the Aperture value at 5.6 actually an actual aperture? or not, possibly not.
Smeggypants
Posted 06/05/2014 - 01:19 Link
Aperture Value(Av) is indeed different to the f stop number

I had an article about it somewhere but lost it. here' aa post on DPReview which might help

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/10984603


Quote:
The camera information in this standard conforms to the APEX (Additive System of Photographic Exposure ) unit system. APEX is a convenient unit for expressing exposure (Ev). The relation of APEX to other units is essentially as follows.
· ApertureValue (Av) = 2 log 2 (F number)
· ShutterSpeedValue (Tv) = - log 2 (exposure time)

· BrightnessValue (Bv) = log2 (B/NK) Note that:B:cd/cm2,N,K:constant Film sensitivity (not used in this standard) is expressed as follows.
· Film sensitivity (Sv) = log2 (ASA / 3.125)
Using these values, exposure (Ev) is calculated as follows.
· Ev = Av + Tv = Bv + Sv

The table below gives examples of values actually used as camera information.

ApertureValue_ F-Number

0_1
1_ 1.4
2_ 2
3_ 2.8
4_ 4
5_ 5.6
6_ 8
7_ 11
8_ 16
9_ 22
10_ 32

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Edited by Smeggypants: 06/05/2014 - 01:19

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