Composition

tyronet2000
Posted 24/01/2013 - 12:30 Link
This is a scan of a slide I took about about 1989-91 using a Pentax SFXn and Sigma 28-50mm. Converted to B&W. Obviously can't do a thing about the image quality but comments on the general composition would be welcome, as that's another of my failings

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Stan

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Blythman
Posted 24/01/2013 - 12:42 - Helpful Comment Link
Hi Stan, couple of things

I'd crop the RH side so there is symmetry with the busts either side.

Then the lights. It looks like where they anchor to the ceiling has accidently been missed off. Either get it all in or be bolder in the crop so it looks like it been a deliberate crop
Alan


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gartmore
Posted 24/01/2013 - 12:48 - Helpful Comment Link
I think for this to work you have to have perfect symmetry and be dead level which you could easily sort

Is it your living room?
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Edited by gartmore: 24/01/2013 - 12:49
tyronet2000
Posted 24/01/2013 - 13:05 Link
Blythman wrote:
Hi Stan, couple of things

I'd crop the RH side so there is symmetry with the busts either side.

Then the lights. It looks like where they anchor to the ceiling has accidently been missed off. Either get it all in or be bolder in the crop so it looks like it been a deliberate crop
Yes, symmetry, I can see that now, also the light anchor is missed off so a deeper crop needed.

gartmore wrote:
I think for this to work you have to have perfect symmetry and be dead level which you could easily sort

Is it your living room?
Having the camera on a tripod might have helped as well.

No it's not my living room it's the tradesman's waiting area just inside the back door
To be honest I can't remember where it is except it's not in the UK

Thanks for the useful comments, I can play about a bit now.
Regards
Stan

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DrOrloff
Posted 24/01/2013 - 13:09 - Helpful Comment Link
As far as I can see there is vertical and horizontal perspective distortion and some lens pincushion distortion. Symmetry would have been ideal but that's going to be very tricky now. I would try to level it up but it's going to leave those busts right at the edge of frame. I'd say do what you can so it's easier on the eye but don't go too far cutting off the busts.
tyronet2000
Posted 24/01/2013 - 13:30 Link
DrOrloff wrote:
As far as I can see there is vertical and horizontal perspective distortion and some lens pincushion distortion. Symmetry would have been ideal but that's going to be very tricky now. I would try to level it up but it's going to leave those busts right at the edge of frame. I'd say do what you can so it's easier on the eye but don't go too far cutting off the busts.
Too late, the busts are gone. Having had another "go" at it I think I needed to be a few steps to the right to get the lights lined up with the curtains. It is fun trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear

I do appreciate the feedback.
Regards
Stan

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gartmore
Posted 24/01/2013 - 14:05 Link
I'm glad to hear you have a proper tradesman's entrance. I was sent to one not so long ago. I had to photograph a painting belonging to Sir Gregor MacGregor, Chief of Clan Gregor. I appeared at the door banging the heavy door knocker and an ancient, wizened family, hunch back retainer eventually opened the door. 'My name is Kenneth MacGregor here to see Sir Gregor MacGregor Chief of Clan Gregor' I confidently announce. 'You've come to the wrong door, go around the back''. Door slams, knocker reverberates. I walk round the entire castle to a much smaller door, knock and the same ancient retainer opens the door standing 10 feet from where she was the last time - in the same hall!

She then tells me he isn't in the castle but in the summer house in the garden.

I hope you treat visiting tradesmen better
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
gartmore
Posted 24/01/2013 - 14:08 Link
DrOrloff wrote:
As far as I can see there is vertical and horizontal perspective distortion and some lens pincushion distortion. Symmetry would have been ideal but that's going to be very tricky now. I would try to level it up but it's going to leave those busts right at the edge of frame. I'd say do what you can so it's easier on the eye but don't go too far cutting off the busts.
i noticed the distortion too, should have bought the Pentax-F 28-80

Why is it so grainy, is that the scanner?
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
tyronet2000
Posted 24/01/2013 - 14:56 Link
gartmore wrote:
i noticed the distortion too, should have bought the Pentax-F 28-80

Why is it so grainy, is that the scanner?
It's probably grainy because it was "scanned" with a very cheap slide copier and the age/quality of the original. The camera, SFXn, was my first "proper" camera bought with, I suppose at the time, the two "kit" lenses Sigma 28-50 (may have been 55) and 50-210 autofocus and so modern I also acquired in 1993/94 ? for £2 at a camera club auction a Pentax 50mm 1.7 F which I still have. Due to work I lost interest in photography about then and have only recently decided to take it up again
as a hobby.

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I hope you treat visiting tradesmen better
I'm usually too busy to deal with tradesmen, I leave that sort of thing to the Financial Controller aka Mrs Snap
Regards
Stan

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gartmore
Posted 24/01/2013 - 17:49 Link
I have an SFX and an SFXn which I still like, always found focussing and metering to be spot on. I've never really understood why they are so under rated now. I have the Pentax-F 50 f1.7, the 28- 80 and the 70-210
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -

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