Commercial shoot in Doha

generator
Posted 17/09/2013 - 07:28 Link
Quote:
t makes it even more of a pointless camera if no one other than K-5IIS owners can look at the pictures it produces.
i would say yes you have as well ?


i love your photos john very well displayed and good light well done
Thanks Richard
Edited by generator: 17/09/2013 - 07:48
Smeggypants
Posted 17/09/2013 - 12:34 Link
generator wrote:
Quote:
t makes it even more of a pointless camera if no one other than K-5IIS owners can look at the pictures it produces.
i would say yes you have as well ?


??????




.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
generator
Posted 17/09/2013 - 12:37 Link
Smeggypants wrote:
generator wrote:
Quote:
t makes it even more of a pointless camera if no one other than K-5IIS owners can look at the pictures it produces.
i would say yes you have as well ?


??????

??????????????




.
Thanks Richard
Pentaxophile
Posted 17/09/2013 - 12:42 Link
eeks into thread:

Wow....

:swiftly exits:
Jim-w
Posted 17/09/2013 - 15:36 Link
Pentaxophile wrote:
eeks into thread:

Wow....

:swiftly exits:


Jim.
jeffstclair
Posted 17/09/2013 - 15:57 Link
I've lost the thread of this thread , ...jeff... once again ...
Smeggypants
Posted 17/09/2013 - 20:05 Link
generator wrote:
Quote:
t makes it even more of a pointless camera if no one other than K-5IIS owners can look at the pictures it produces.
i would say yes you have as well ?


So not going to explain the grammatically incoherent and strange answer to my above quote? A statement with a question mark is odd in itself as well as making no sense as a response .
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
jemx99
Posted 17/09/2013 - 20:18 Link
aliengrove wrote:
They are particularly pleased with the night shots which were done at my suggestion.
Great shots and I especially like the night shots too!
davidstorm
Posted 17/09/2013 - 20:27 Link
Smeggypants wrote:
It makes it even more of a pointless camera if no one other than K-5IIS owners can look at the pictures it produces.

Of.... if non K-5IIs owners can see K-5IIs pictures, do they see them differently from K-5IIs owners?

Actually given the hyperbole I think they probably do

Do you ever comment on the image quality of pictures taken on cameras you don't own David?
I don't really want to get embroiled in tit for tat comments, but I do really feel you have completely missed the point here Smeggy. No-one has ever said that 'no-one other than K-5iis owners can look at the pictures it produces'. What has been said is than those who own a K-5iis and have used it for an extended period of time, across a wide range of photographic situations and many thousands of images shot, are in a much better place to judge the merits of the IQ, especially when many of those owners have owned and still do own a K-5 (or two) and can therefore directly compare the output of the two cameras in all of these varied situations.

I don't think I've seen any observations, from anyone in that position, that does not agree with what Shaun has said in this thread and what I've said many times, i.e. the K-5iis consistently produces better images than the K-5 does. I'm not talking about AF, I'm talking about IQ.

I fail to see how anyone can argue with that logic as to do so is not common sense.

Regards
David
Flickr

Nicola's Apartments, Kassiopi, Corfu

Some cameras, some lenses, some bits 'n' bobs
Blythman
Posted 17/09/2013 - 20:34 Link
Very good set Jon.

Pity about all the crap that has followed
Alan


PPG
Flickr
Smeggypants
Posted 17/09/2013 - 21:24 Link
davidstorm wrote:
Smeggypants wrote:
It makes it even more of a pointless camera if no one other than K-5IIS owners can look at the pictures it produces.

Of.... if non K-5IIs owners can see K-5IIs pictures, do they see them differently from K-5IIs owners?

Actually given the hyperbole I think they probably do

Do you ever comment on the image quality of pictures taken on cameras you don't own David?
I don't really want to get embroiled in tit for tat comments, but I do really feel you have completely missed the point here Smeggy. No-one has ever said that 'no-one other than K-5iis owners can look at the pictures it produces'. What has been said is than those who own a K-5iis and have used it for an extended period of time, across a wide range of photographic situations and many thousands of images shot, are in a much better place to judge the merits of the IQ, especially when many of those owners have owned and still do own a K-5 (or two) and can therefore directly compare the output of the two cameras in all of these varied situations.

I don't think I've seen any observations, from anyone in that position, that does not agree with what Shaun has said in this thread and what I've said many times, i.e. the K-5iis consistently produces better images than the K-5 does. I'm not talking about AF, I'm talking about IQ.

I fail to see how anyone can argue with that logic as to do so is not common sense.

Regards
David
Anyone can look at two comparison images and make a judgement between those images without owning either camera that's taken them. That's all I have done.

So to imply, and in some cases directly claim, I am not qualified to judge between two images because I don't own or have used one of the cameras taking them is complete and utter nonsense.

"better images" ??

"better" is a wholly subjective term and nothing to do with logic. I'm not disputing your subjective view on the differences between the cameras. You have every right to conclude that subjective view.

I have looked comparison images taken with both cameras and concluded there isn't any difference worth worrying about in those images. I don't need to own either of them to make that judgement. FWIW Gary Cabstar a professional photographer, chose to get a K-5II, not a K-5IIs becuase he felt, IIRC, the small ( IMO very small ) differences in the images he saw wasn't worth it either. He's enjoying getting a lot more keepers because of the improved AF.

Maybe it's about time you respected my opinion, like I respect yours and drop this attitude of "My opinion is superior to yours becuase I own the camera". Just a thought.


.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Edited by Smeggypants: 17/09/2013 - 21:25
johnriley
Posted 17/09/2013 - 21:30 Link
It must be time to draw a line under this and go back to the purpose of the thread - the images posted.

They are rather good, so let's not detract from them.
Best regards, John
Smeggypants
Posted 17/09/2013 - 21:34 Link
johnriley wrote:
It must be time to draw a line under this and go back to the purpose of the thread - the images posted.

They are rather good, so let's not detract from them.
Agreed John. Great images!

Comment Image
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
davidstorm
Posted 17/09/2013 - 21:36 Link
I don't understand why you're always so bitter about things Smeggy; quote 'Maybe it's about time you respected my opinion, like I respect yours and drop this attitude of "My opinion is superior to yours becuase I own the camera". Just a thought.'

It is quite clear from your many quotes on this and other subjects that you don't tend to respect other people's opinions.

I've never had any attitude of 'mine is better than yours', I don't think you are in any position to judge this as you don't know me and have never met me, unlike many other members on here who have and who I think will be smiling to themselves when they read your remarks.

I respect Gary Cabstar's decision to buy a K-5ii, but frankly that has nothing to do with it. Do I know what Gary would say if he had a iis and shot thousands of images with it? No I don't, and neither do you.

It's a real shame you don't more often use your obvious intelligence and knowledge to contribute in a positive way more often instead of being so negative. That's just my opinion by the way.

Sincere apologies to Jon for posting this on his thread, I feel bad about it.

Regards
David
Flickr

Nicola's Apartments, Kassiopi, Corfu

Some cameras, some lenses, some bits 'n' bobs
johnriley
Posted 17/09/2013 - 21:55 Link
If you feel bad about it, don't do it...time Gentlemen please.
Best regards, John

Add Comment

To leave a comment - Log in to Pentax User or create a new account.



Proudly supporting Pentax User

Samsung Logo Asahi Pentax Logo