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Cheapest K-7 Pre-order price?

Mike-P
Posted 25/05/2009 - 15:08 Link
Expansys have it on preorder for £1020.
johnriley
Posted 25/05/2009 - 15:11 Link
£886.95 excluding VAT - it makes you think doesn't it? That's a lot of tax to pay just for the privelidge of making a purchase, especially as the income we purchase it with has already been taxed.

I've always thought the moral argument for VAT is pretty shaky. What gives a government the right to tax us on what we do with our own money, apart from the fact of course that they can...
Best regards, John
Clarky
Posted 25/05/2009 - 16:31 Link
I know this does not mean much to you guys over there. But a number of high street retailers over here are listing it on thier websites for delivery mid July, The cheapest I have seen is £740 with Kit lens (NOT the newer WR version) and the most expensive is £986 with the same kit lens.

This surprises me somewhat as we usually follow you guys with pricing and more times than not it is significantly higher in price than what you are paying.
Take the new DA*60-250 for example over here you can't get it for less than £1100, yet you guys are paying £899 for it. So what gives ::
Camera:|K-7|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|
Mannesty
Posted 25/05/2009 - 16:32 Link
Perhaps your currency is doing better against the Yen than ours is?
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Clarky
Posted 25/05/2009 - 16:39 Link
You may be right but that doesn't explain why the lens is way more expensive and the K-7 is way cheaper
Camera:|K-7|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|
Mike-P
Posted 25/05/2009 - 16:41 Link
Clarky, swap you a DA*60-250mm f4 for a Pentax K-7
Clarky
Posted 25/05/2009 - 16:48 Link
Mike-P wrote:
Clarky, swap you a DA*60-250mm f4 for a Pentax K-7

If we were both gauranteed not to get hit with taxes and whatever else they want to tack on, then we could work something out.
Camera:|K-7|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|
stevejcoe
Posted 25/05/2009 - 16:54 Link
Clarky wrote:
I know this does not mean much to you guys over there. But a number of high street retailers over here are listing it on thier websites for delivery mid July, The cheapest I have seen is £740 with Kit lens (NOT the newer WR version) and the most expensive is £986 with the same kit lens.

This surprises me somewhat as we usually follow you guys with pricing and more times than not it is significantly higher in price than what you are paying.
Take the new DA*60-250 for example over here you can't get it for less than £1100, yet you guys are paying £899 for it. So what gives ::

I would expect the K7 to settle at around £750 allowing room for a K30 to slot in at around £500

Steve
RichardDay
Posted 25/05/2009 - 17:09 Link
Clarky wrote:
I know this does not mean much to you guys over there. But a number of high street retailers over here are listing it on thier websites for delivery mid July, The cheapest I have seen is £740 with Kit lens (NOT the newer WR version) and the most expensive is £986 with the same kit lens.

This surprises me somewhat as we usually follow you guys with pricing and more times than not it is significantly higher in price than what you are paying.
Take the new DA*60-250 for example over here you can't get it for less than £1100, yet you guys are paying £899 for it. So what gives ::

Re: The lens prices - Isn't CR Kennedy the Sigma importer as well :

Not that it should make much difference!
Best regards
Richard Day

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shim
Posted 25/05/2009 - 17:12 Link
Old retail con, quoting a lower price for goods that you
haven't got.

I'll sell you my K7 for £500 if your that desperate

shim
johnriley
Posted 25/05/2009 - 17:16 Link
It's a bit like them saying "You paid £500? I could have done that for £450," whilst secure in the knowledge that they don't have to. Some salespeople use all sorts of tricks.

Don't forget that some are straightforward though.
Best regards, John
Clarky
Posted 25/05/2009 - 17:35 Link
RichardDay wrote:
Clarky wrote:
I know this does not mean much to you guys over there. But a number of high street retailers over here are listing it on thier websites for delivery mid July, The cheapest I have seen is £740 with Kit lens (NOT the newer WR version) and the most expensive is £986 with the same kit lens.

This surprises me somewhat as we usually follow you guys with pricing and more times than not it is significantly higher in price than what you are paying.
Take the new DA*60-250 for example over here you can't get it for less than £1100, yet you guys are paying £899 for it. So what gives ::

Re: The lens prices - Isn't CR Kennedy the Sigma importer as well :

Not that it should make much difference!

Richard, all our Sigma and Pentax gear come through C R Kennnedy's, They have a monopoly on it.

John & Shim, So what are you saying, that the prices they have on thier websites are just a con ?? If thats the case then it makes no sense at all. Why would they list the lens at 1100quid which isn't in the country yet and on the same page list the K-7 at 740quid.
Well I have dealt with some of these retailers before and that is not the standard practise that I have encountered.
Camera:|K-7|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|
pentaxian450
Posted 25/05/2009 - 17:40 Link
johnriley wrote:
It's a bit like them saying "You paid £500? I could have done that for £450," whilst secure in the knowledge that they don't have to. Some salespeople use all sorts of tricks.

Don't forget that some are straightforward though.

I don't know how it works in England, but here (Québec), once a bill of sale has been issued, it is like a contract. Both parties have to comply with the terms of the bill of sale. And, when you give a deposit for something not in store, the store has to issue a bill of sale depicting all the conditions of the sale, i.e. deposit + total amont due + taxes and so on.
Yves (another one of those crazy Canucks)
shim
Posted 25/05/2009 - 19:33 Link
There were a few scam dealers around a few years ago who claimed they were expecting hard to locate Leica and other make lenses at very good prices. They took hefty deposits and kept them for several months until the customers got fed up and demanded their money back. So the dealer had free use of that cash to finance his business. Alternatively they would get the lenses but surprise, surprise there had been a big increase in price.

I remember one electrical retailer (no longer in business) who used to deliberately quote very low prices on stuff they hadn't got. When the customer went to another shop that had stock, they would complain that it's x pounds cheaper at Joe Soaps. If the salesman was wise he would answer "Come back when we are out of stock and you can have it at Joe Soaps price"

That's why "Price Match" stores insist that the other store actually have the item in stock before they will price match.

shim
Edited by shim: 25/05/2009 - 19:34
Paulm0bsw
Posted 25/05/2009 - 19:37 Link
Well hopefully the K200d will come down a bit,I can't afford hiked up prices, VAT and Tax on my wages, I think we have to be the most taxed country in the world,paying for gordies,cock ups the K200 will fill my needs, and it is a goodcamera.
Paul

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