Built in shake reduction. Does this really works?

jbanjeet
Posted 20/07/2011 - 10:08 Link
My hands shakes a lot when taking pictures and I was trying a Nikon with a VR lens (70-300) the other day and found that the pictures were much sharper than with my pentax.
johnriley
Posted 20/07/2011 - 10:11 Link
Yes, it does work. Just allow time for the hand symbol in the viewfinder to stabilise.

What lens are you using on your Pentax?
Best regards, John
vrapan
Posted 20/07/2011 - 10:54 Link
As above, it works for me, when I was trying the 50-135 in SRS against my D7k/50-150 the pictures were much clearer on the Pentax combo.

What lens are you using? wider lenses are not getting stabilised as well, then again you shouldn't need them to be.
wvbarnes
Posted 20/07/2011 - 11:01 Link
Do not use shake reduction if using a tripod, monopod or resting on say a wall.

As John says make sure the hand symbol is showing steady (as on and ready). Not usually an issue.

Use the camera in shutter priority mode and balance highest shutter speed possible with an acceptable ISO. Remember though that too wide an aperture against high shutter speed will reduce depth of field already shallow at telephoto. I've seen spoilt photos considered shake that are simply out of focus and vice versa.

Squeeze the shutter gently while breathing out. I was taught that 40 years ago and it still holds good, especially as we all get older.

Finally be relaxed as possible, take your time and enjoy.
Mannesty
Posted 20/07/2011 - 11:01 Link
I've compared images using my K20D and K5 with my Sigma 150-500mm OS lens at 500mm and can see no difference whether using the lens OS, camera SR, or both (oddly).

I can see a significant difference when no stabilisation is used.

My opinion, yes it does work, and very well.

With a K5 armed with a GPS unit, it'll even track the stars for up to 300 seconds. That's got to mean that, if the stabilisation is digital, it uses very fine stepping increments. I think however it probably uses an analogue sensor positioning system, which is stepless.

As John has stated, you must wait for the hand symbol to appear in the viewfinder, which indicates that the SR system is stabilised. Just as you have to with any in-lens stabilisation system.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Edited by Mannesty: 20/07/2011 - 11:04
jbanjeet
Posted 20/07/2011 - 11:47 Link
Thanks for the replies.

I have the k-x, i dont have much problem when using the kit lenses

but its only when using the tamron 70-300 mm ..
I shoot either in manual mode or aperture priority with this lens and no other mode work
johnriley
Posted 20/07/2011 - 12:06 - Helpful Comment Link
Probably the Nikon VR lens is just a better lens than the Tamron one.

The SMC Pentax-DA 55-300mm lens would seem the probable best choice for you.
Best regards, John
vrapan
Posted 20/07/2011 - 12:38 - Helpful Comment Link
The Nikon 70-300 VR is well know to be an excellent lens, I had it for a few months a year ago or so and it is an amazing lens on a crop camera with excellent VR - Nikon's VR II system btw is very effective.

As John said the Tamron is not optically up there and also I thought the K-x SR is not as advanced as neither the newer K-r/K5 implementation nor the VR II on the 70-300. I do remember reading that even the K20D SR was not that great.

So maybe a better lens on your Pentax is the answer as well as a brand new K-5?
Mike-P
Posted 20/07/2011 - 12:44 - Helpful Comment Link
Nikon 70-300mm VR £400
Tamron 70-300mm approx £150?

Nearly 3 times the price .. I should hope it is better
Mike-P
Posted 20/07/2011 - 12:47 Link
Mannesty wrote:

With a K5 armed with a GPS unit, it'll even track the stars for up to 300 seconds. That's got to mean that, if the stabilisation is digital, it uses very fine stepping increments. I think however it probably uses an analogue sensor positioning system, which is stepless.
For some reason I am strangely drawn to the GPS unit ....

But then I rather like the look of the Pentax Q as well so what do I know.
vrapan
Posted 20/07/2011 - 12:50 Link
Mike-P wrote:
Mannesty wrote:

With a K5 armed with a GPS unit, it'll even track the stars for up to 300 seconds. That's got to mean that, if the stabilisation is digital, it uses very fine stepping increments. I think however it probably uses an analogue sensor positioning system, which is stepless.
For some reason I am strangely drawn to the GPS unit ....

But then I rather like the look of the Pentax Q as well so what do I know.
I don't like the look of the Q, I love the look of the Q it is like when the PEN came out and everybody thought what a cool retro/modern styling just better. I have to see reviews to see how the sensor performs but if it is any good whatsoever one of those will replace my lx3
Mike-P
Posted 20/07/2011 - 12:52 Link
I think we should have a Pentax Q outing thread where everyone that likes the look of it comes out of the closet and admits to their secret.
vrapan
Posted 20/07/2011 - 12:53 Link
Mike-P wrote:
I think we should have a Pentax Q outing thread where everyone that likes the look of it comes out of the closet and admits to their secret.
Agreed, go ahead Mike start it up! Hello my name is Vasilis and I love the look of the Q
Blythman
Posted 20/07/2011 - 13:45 Link
You don't say what you are photographing. Is it static or moving subjects? I'd suspect the Pentax SR isn't as good for moving subjects. Peter refers to the Sigma 150-500, well that lens has 2 settings built in. One for static and one for panning. The Penax bodies don't have this.
Alan


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vrapan
Posted 20/07/2011 - 13:52 Link
Blythman wrote:
You don't say what you are photographing. Is it static or moving subjects? I'd suspect the Pentax SR isn't as good for moving subjects. Peter refers to the Sigma 150-500, well that lens has 2 settings built in. One for static and one for panning. The Penax bodies don't have this.
SR or any image stabilisation system is no good at all for moving subjects, fast shutter speed is the solution to that problem.

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