Beware - SR induced shake - Oops!

johnha
Posted 01/07/2012 - 20:59 Link
I've just spent a frustrating few minutes trying to work out what was going wrong with my pictures. Long-ish exposures (around 1/15th) on a 28mm lens showed signs of shake. Upping the ISO to get 1/60th didn't help and the resulting images showed far more shake than I'd experienced before. I checked specifically to make sure SR has ready before shooting.

Then I realised my focal length had been set to 500mm yesterday and I hadn't changed it - oops...
Algernon
Posted 01/07/2012 - 21:16 Link
I've done it the other way round SR 28mm.... Lens 400mm
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Algi
Cuchulainn
Posted 01/07/2012 - 23:20 Link
28mm setting for a 400mm lens is the "correct" way to make the error though - the other way round would have the camera adding excess correction! Must have been worrying for a bit John!

Naturally I've, um, never made this mistake. Nope.

Definitely not.

After the third time...
microlight2010
Posted 08/08/2012 - 00:03 Link
Just got a K-5, very impressed so far. Am I right in thinking that if I use A-series 35mm lenses (which I do), then when I turn the camera on and it asks for a focal length, I put in the nominal length plus 50% rather than the straight value, in the same way that my 50/1.7 turns into a 75mm on digital?

Thanks all.

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Pentaxophile
Posted 08/08/2012 - 00:13 Link
No, use the actual focal length of the lens. Forget the crop factor!
Edited by Pentaxophile: 08/08/2012 - 00:15
Smeggypants
Posted 08/08/2012 - 00:17 Link
microlight2010 wrote:
Just got a K-5, very impressed so far. Am I right in thinking that if I use A-series 35mm lenses (which I do), then when I turn the camera on and it asks for a focal length, I put in the nominal length plus 50% rather than the straight value, in the same way that my 50/1.7 turns into a 75mm on digital?

Thanks all.

Your 50mm/1.7 is still 50mm whether it's on a film camera, a digital camera, or whatever the film or sensor format is.
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microlight2010
Posted 08/08/2012 - 08:03 Link
Many thanks for the feedback. Looking forward to getting to grips with the K-5.

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Stuey
Posted 08/08/2012 - 08:12 Link
I have made that error with my K10 not yet with the K5 but it is probably just a matter of time
K10D, K5 plus plenty of clueless enthusiasm.

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dcweather
Posted 08/08/2012 - 22:58 Link
What do you put in for focal length with say a 1.5x converter? DO you add the additional 50%. Also any changes for extension tubes?
Mannesty
Posted 08/08/2012 - 23:27 Link
dcweather wrote:
What do you put in for focal length with say a 1.5x converter? DO you add the additional 50%. Also any changes for extension tubes?
You enter the focal length of the lens multiplied by the converter magnification. 28mm x 1.5x T/C = 42mm.

I'm not sure how you would work out the change in focal length, if any, when using extension tubes.
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Edited by Mannesty: 08/08/2012 - 23:27
bforbes
Posted 09/08/2012 - 10:44 Link
Mannesty wrote:
dcweather wrote:
What do you put in for focal length with say a 1.5x converter? DO you add the additional 50%. Also any changes for extension tubes?
You enter the focal length of the lens multiplied by the converter magnification. 28mm x 1.5x T/C = 42mm.

I'm not sure how you would work out the change in focal length, if any, when using extension tubes.
If you're using the shutter speed = focal length rule do you include the 1.5 crop factor in the calculation
johnriley
Posted 09/08/2012 - 14:56 Link
Barrie's question is answered in the instruction manual, and refers to the slowest "safe" shutter speed when hand holding.

For a 35mm film camera this is taken as the reciprocal of focal length, so for a 200mm lens that would be 1/200sec. For an APS-C DSLR it would be 1/300sec (200mm x 1.5 = 300mm.

When entering an SR figure for a lens, just use the actual focal length.

Logically, when using say a 2x converter you would presumably use 200 x 2 = 400mm as the starting point, although I have never actually tried that myself.
Best regards, John
Algernon
Posted 09/08/2012 - 17:29 Link
If a converter has all the electrical contacts it just passes
the lens FL straight through.... so basically your stuck with
that... It seems to work though.

With a basic TC you can enter the FL so you can allow for the TC.
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Algi
Mike-P
Posted 09/08/2012 - 17:39 Link
microlight2010 wrote:
Looking forward to getting to grips with the K-5.
You only need one, can't see the point in getting any more.
Father Ted
Posted 14/08/2012 - 08:36 Link
Mike-P wrote:
microlight2010 wrote:
Looking forward to getting to grips with the K-5.
You only need one, can't see the point in getting any more.
Oh, that's bad!!
Getting there! Thanks to you guys

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