AF 160fc- macro attachment

neill
Posted 30/11/2009 - 21:01 Link
Hello guys,
I have just uprgraded from the 140c to the 160c.
The 160c comes with a tube attachment for the macro lenses ( in my case the 100mm), as well as as a set of adapter rings.

The tube attachment substantially increases the minimum distance between lens and subject, thus reducing the maximum magnification.
Does the tube have a particularly necessary function in relation to the new flash, or can I use the adapter rings, as per my old ringflash?
This is important as I need to get close up to my subject (clinical dental photography)
Thanking you

Neil
mayday
Posted 30/11/2009 - 21:55 Link
Hi,
If you look on page 10 of the Flash Manual you will see that the "TUBE" is in fact a macro adaptor for the DFA Macro lens.

The other rings can be used as per any other flash - to fit the unit to a particular size lens filter ring - in this case 49mm 52mm 58mm and 67mm.

Hope this helps
Regards
David

Retired at last - now all that time for photography - you would think: wink:
Mannesty
Posted 30/11/2009 - 22:00 Link
The 'tube' is a bayonet fitting for the D-FA 50 and 100mm Macro lenses. If yours is not a D-FA lens, use one of the adapter rings.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
neill
Posted 06/12/2009 - 10:46 Link
Thank you gentlemen.
I use a 100mm DA lens, originally with the af 140C using the rings.
I was thus able to get closer to the subject.
The coupling tube increases the flash -sensor distance by the length of the tube (approx. 6cm)
Since the purpose of ring flash is for close up work, I just wonder in terms of physics and optics, what benefit the tube is giving over and above a coupling ring? as I now need to increase the aperture by a stop to compensate.
Neil
Mannesty
Posted 06/12/2009 - 10:57 Link
Sorry Neill, your lens identification is still incorrect. Pentax do not make a DA 100mm Macro lens. So which is it, FA or D-FA?

Whichever, if it has a filter ring, and I'm sure it does, just use the correct sized aluminium ring adapter.

I don't know what benefit the tube has, I don't use it.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Edited by Mannesty: 06/12/2009 - 10:58
Clarky
Posted 06/12/2009 - 11:06 Link
Pete, The tube is designed to take the weight from the flash head off the focus barrel on the D-FA macro lens, with the tube attached to the hood bayonet all the weight is then concentrated onto the main barrel of the lens.

The D-FA 100mm macro does not have one of the highest build qualities.
Camera:|K-7|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|
Mike-P
Posted 06/12/2009 - 13:30 Link
Clarky wrote:


The D-FA 100mm macro does not have one of the highest build qualities.
I wonder if that is the Tokina influence at work again, was this not another joint venture between Pentax and Tokina?. I Must admit I'm surprised at the quality of the D-FA lenses, especially after the FA Macro.
Mannesty
Posted 06/12/2009 - 16:13 Link
Clarky wrote:
Pete, The tube is designed to take the weight from the flash head off the focus barrel on the D-FA macro lens, with the tube attached to the hood bayonet all the weight is then concentrated onto the main barrel of the lens.

The D-FA 100mm macro does not have one of the highest build qualities.
Thanks for explaining Steve. I knew there would be a good reason.

Perhaps it's not a good idea to hang the flash head from the filter thread of a D-FA lens then ! ! !
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Clarky
Posted 06/12/2009 - 20:04 Link
Mannesty wrote:
Clarky wrote:
Pete, The tube is designed to take the weight from the flash head off the focus barrel on the D-FA macro lens, with the tube attached to the hood bayonet all the weight is then concentrated onto the main barrel of the lens.

The D-FA 100mm macro does not have one of the highest build qualities.
Thanks for explaining Steve. I knew there would be a good reason.

Perhaps it's not a good idea to hang the flash head from the filter thread of a D-FA lens then ! ! !
I wouldn't hang anything from the barrel of a D-FA macro lens, any excess weight causes the focus barrel off kilter and that renders the quick shift inoperable. I found that out when trying some reverse stacking with a 50mm 1.7 attached. not a pretty sight.
Camera:|K-7|
Pentax Lenses:|DA12-24/f4 ED AL|DA35Ltd Macro|FA31Ltd|FA77Ltd|FA50/1.4|F70-210|FA20-35 f4/AL|A*200/f4 Macro ED|A50/1.7|A50 Macro f2.8|1.7xAF adapter|
Voigtlander|125/f2.5SL Macro APO Lanthar|
Sigma Lenses:|EX DG 100-300 f4|2X & 1.4X TC|
Flashes:|AF540FGZx2|RingFlash AF160FC|

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