Adobe photoshop Elements advice

Posted 26/02/2013 - 17:40 Link
AuraTodd wrote:
I might get a bit confused by layers to start off with, would lightroom be easier to use?
AuraTodd wrote:
I might get a bit confused by layers to start off with, would lightroom be easier to use?
layers is photoshop not lightroom , lightroom doesnt have layers
Smeggypants
Posted 26/02/2013 - 20:16 Link
AuraTodd wrote:
I might get a bit confused by layers to start off with, would lightroom be easier to use?
Only you can answer what's "easy to use" as it's such a subjective thing.

Personally I find Lightroom incredibly easy to use becuase it's very well designed ergonomically.

Lightroom caters for 99.99999% of all my photographic needs.

If you want to start cloning things out like nasty lamposts then you'll need a bitmap editor like photoshop, photopaint, etc

I don't clone out things from scenes, but I do clone out scratches on 35mm negative scans and I do that in photopaint before importing to lightroom for the editing.
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PeterKR
Posted 26/02/2013 - 20:37 Link
McGregNi wrote:
PS Elements is good for learning as it has a 'Guide' mode - this opens windows that combine key adjustment controls with explanations of what to do as you go. Once you've got more confident then you simply switch to 'Full Edit' mode and use the controls without the handholding.

Like full photoshop, without this guide mode, then the various adjustment panels are a bit hidden under menu items, so it can be confusing to begin with. Elements has been devised specifically for photographers without all the art & design features of full Photoshop.

If you open RAW files then initially the Adobe Camera Raw window will open firstly to allow you to make basic adjustments and then the image is opened into the main Elements window for more detailed work.

A key reason for using Elements would be to learn about Layers, which provide a very flexible way of adjusting smaller parts of photos in detail, or of combining shots in various ways. All good stuff, and very useful as your skills develop!
Just check the Adobe website for more help and user guides and to take it a bit further have a look at this site where you can download some free trial copies of Photoshop Elements Techniques.

http://www.photoshopelementsuser.com/elements-10-starter-kit/

Since PSE is such a widely used program there are reams of help around - you simply need to LOOK !

Good hunting
Peter
AuraTodd
Posted 27/02/2013 - 13:54 Link
Hi I just had a look at Lightroom and apparently it won't work on windows XP of which I have, only Vista (which is as old as the hills) windows 7 and 8. so I might have to consider photoshop which does work with XP. Is there a guide which helps you on Photoshop please?
Edited by AuraTodd: 27/02/2013 - 13:54
PeterKR
Posted 27/02/2013 - 14:01 Link
AuraTodd wrote:
Hi.... Is there a guide which helps you on Photoshop please?
Have you not read my posting just above ?

Click on the link and simply explore the site for all manner of help guides, video tutorials etc !!!

This is for Photoshop Elements which is where you should start.

Peter
AuraTodd
Posted 27/02/2013 - 14:20 Link
PeterKR wrote:
AuraTodd wrote:
Hi.... Is there a guide which helps you on Photoshop please?
Have you not read my posting just above ?

Click on the link and simply explore the site for all manner of help guides, video tutorials etc !!!

This is for Photoshop Elements which is where you should start.

Peter
Oh sorry mate
Smeggypants
Posted 27/02/2013 - 16:52 Link
AuraTodd wrote:
Hi I just had a look at Lightroom and apparently it won't work on windows XP of which I have, only Vista (which is as old as the hills) windows 7 and 8. so I might have to consider photoshop which does work with XP. Is there a guide which helps you on Photoshop please?
Lightroom 3 works on XP
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AuraTodd
Posted 27/02/2013 - 18:28 Link
It wasn't mentioned on the specifics.
Tringa
Posted 28/02/2013 - 20:15 Link
I bought PSE 11 recently because it was a good deal. I've used it a bit and I find it reasonably easy to use. However, I haven't yet move over from my usual free editors -

GIMP, if I want to do a lot or complicated stuff, and

Photoscape, when very little is needed. This is basic but really easy to use.

Although I've not used the editor in PSE11 that much, the organiser in Elements 11 is excellent.

Dave
Edited by Tringa: 28/02/2013 - 20:16
sussexwolf
Posted 02/03/2013 - 14:22 Link
I have Lightroom, Elements and Photoshop CS5.

For Jpeg, Elements is very good, and the catalogue is very easy to use.

For RAW Lightroom is my choice and the one I use at present. There are a few occasions when you need to use Photoshop, for example putting a layered picture together. Lightroom 4 is now very good for printing but you cannot do some of the more fancy stuff you can do with photoshop elements or CS 5/6.

Photoshop is best for finer adjustments in JPEG or Raw. It comes with Bridge, a sort of catalogue, but it just isn't as good as Elements or Lightroom for cataloging your photos.
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AuraTodd
Posted 02/03/2013 - 14:27 Link
Can I get all my photo's off of Elements onto a picture CD? With Picasa you can make a gift CD, but how do you do that with Elements please?
bforbes
Posted 02/03/2013 - 15:13 Link
I have not tried it, but the File drop down menu of Organizer, in Elements 11, has the option to Copy/Move to Removable Drive. (Ctrl+Shift+O)
AuraTodd
Posted 03/03/2013 - 10:09 Link
So lightroom is better then Photoshop? can you denoise on Lightroom? might try Fast Stone, after downloading will this work on Windows XP and take up much room on the hardrive? Which link in Fast stone do I choose? There seems to be severale.

Appoogies asking so many questions.
Edited by AuraTodd: 03/03/2013 - 10:11
bforbes
Posted 03/03/2013 - 14:06 - Helpful Comment Link
"So lightroom is better then Photoshop?" lightroom is different to Photoshop. Lightroom is more for general adjustments to exposure, noise, colour and tones or levels. Photoshop, I think, can do more with manipulation. So yes you can denoise in lightroom. Not sure about your Fast Stone questions I only use it as a quick way of viewing DNG files
AuraTodd
Posted 03/03/2013 - 16:38 Link
bforbes wrote:
"So lightroom is better then Photoshop?" lightroom is different to Photoshop. Lightroom is more for general adjustments to exposure, noise, colour and tones or levels. Photoshop, I think, can do more with manipulation. So yes you can denoise in lightroom. Not sure about your Fast Stone questions I only use it as a quick way of viewing DNG files
Going to leave XP when I can and move onto Windows 7 as lightroom doesn't work on XP.

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