A Viewfinder Problem Solved.

Roy3
Posted 07/05/2011 - 21:01 Link
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Great idea!!![/quote]Hi aadil from Mumbai,

How do you cope with photography over there when trying to take a landscape shot when all you see in the viewfinder is a shimmering heat haze view?

I've had problems with this heat haze all over the middle and far east, especially in the desert areas.

Actually seeing a mirage, an image of a real desert oasis or even a city that maybe hundreds or thousands of miles away is absolutely astonishing.

Best regards,
Roy
Anvh
Posted 07/05/2011 - 21:26 Link
Live view maybe?
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aadil
Posted 08/05/2011 - 15:18 Link
Roy3 wrote:
Hi aadil from Mumbai,

How do you cope with photography over there when trying to take a landscape shot when all you see in the viewfinder is a shimmering heat haze view?

I've had problems with this heat haze all over the middle and far east, especially in the desert areas.

Actually seeing a mirage, an image of a real desert oasis or even a city that maybe hundreds or thousands of miles away is absolutely astonishing.

Best regards,
Hi Roy,

Reading through your post on getting old, I am sure you've had a great life in the past at work and have a great one in retirement too. Sorry about forgetting names of things or people sometimes it happens to me too and I am just over 46!!!

I have shot in Rajasthan's Thar Desert in India and in the Egyptian desert on holiday as well as in the sand dunes in Saudi Arabia when I was there on a work related posting for 82 days but never had a problem as I was able to see the images of thermal distortion pretending to be water pretty clearly in my viewfinder too and I was not using live view!!! Have yet to see a real mirage of an actual oasis or cities like you mention. Have you seen any or taken pictures of them?

Regards,
Aadil.
Climb high; climb far;
Your goal, the sky,
Your aim, the stars!!!
Edited by aadil: 08/05/2011 - 15:20
Don
Posted 08/05/2011 - 15:36 Link
Roy3 wrote:
Don wrote:
Hey Roy, glad you're feeling better... I love building stuff, almost as much as I love kidding around....
Hi Don,

Another Canuck, the other Canuck on the forum describes himself as a crazy Canuck!
I spent some time in Ontario & well remember Yonge Street in Toronto (the longest street in the world) some 16 miles long? Also, the fleet of snow clearing machines that used to keep Toronto's designated roads clear of snow during the winter.
I understand that due to weather changes, Toronto has got rid of it's fleet as it's no longer necessary. How true is this?
My enduring memory is the length of the winter that went on and on and on.....then one day the snow seems to have disappeared and this lifts ones mood. The next day you wake up to 15 feet of snow. Clearing the drive you then find that the tires of your car are frozen to the ground! Unbelievable, and this same scenario keeps repeating itself again and again.
I once visited the Sportsman's Show in Toronto, when we left the show we had to join a line of people that stretched from the show to the car park, each holding one another up because of the freezing rain that had made the ground a very slippy ice rink. People over here wouldn't believe that the freezing rain in Canada can ice up your windscreen some 2 inches thick in just a few minutes. To remove it you smashed the ice with a hammer to break it, less believable is that this doesn't harm the windshield in the slightest.
Then the snow finally disappears from the picket fences that prevent the wind from blowing snow onto the road, these fences lining all the main roads. Then spring arrives along with June Bugs to follow!. What a country, a country that breeds some pretty hard men.
Good people, the Canucks.

Best regards,
I doubt they "Got rid of", more likely they simply "Privatized" but snow plows are still needed in Toronto....
Canada also has the longest hwy in the world PEI to Vancouver 8,030 kms
From Toronto you can drive Young street straight North to Barrie where it soon connects to the Transcanda.. So the Name of the road changes somewhere near Newmarket but is is still the same road.....
Out here in Manitoba, the winters are much more severe than Totonto which is much further south, and gets some benifit from the Great lakes as well to help moderate thier weather....
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Roy3
Posted 08/05/2011 - 20:32 Link
Hi aadil,

Whilst on an inspection tour of a 36" gas pipeline in the desert of Iran, just south of the Asian Highway I came across a village and decided to drive to it. I soon realised that there was something strange, visibility deteriorated as the temperature climbed to over 50 in the shade and I had to stop as the steering wheel of the Landrover had become too hot to hold. I had just donned a pair of welding gauntlets when I noticed that the village I was driving towards had disappeared! The village that I had seen was a mirage, I had clearly seen the high mud walls around each house, the square, the minaret of the mosque that I had planned to visit, all very real, but actually really existing many, many miles from where I first saw it.

Iran is a strange country, some parts having temperatures of 50 above in the summer and 50 below in the winter! Impossible to weld pipework in such very cold conditions.
The Tehran Airport was designed and built by UK contractors. The Airport roof collapsed in the first winter after it was built due to the weight of the snow. Some engineering genius hadn't researched the Local Weather.
The Resident Engineer on that job could hardly put this down to unforeseen circumstances! British Civil Engineering at it's best! Oh, the shame of it.

One of the first sections of the 36" pipeline I was on ran through an area of desert where the sand was as fine as talcum powder. The dust from this fine sand got into the air intake of every single vehicle engine of both the Project Engineering Team and the Contractor. All these engines seized and had to be replaced. Including the engines of the Contractors Excavators & Sidebooms (D9 Catterpiller Tractors with an a frame Crane used for lifting pipe) were all written off. Every single vehicle had to be modified before work could re-start!.

My engineering report justifiably put the lengthy delay down to unforeseen circumstances. This straight pipework section didn't require route Surveying nor the services of a pipework Bending Engineer.
You never know what to expect in the desert. On some jobs I've seen the right of way (the pipeline 'roadway' that is bulldozed clear) covered with wall to wall horned vipers, so many that you would swear that the ground was moving like a river! Get bit by one and your'e in real trouble!

Regards,
Roy
Edited by Roy3: 08/05/2011 - 20:49
aadil
Posted 09/05/2011 - 18:27 Link
Roy3 wrote:
Hi aadil,

Whilst on an inspection tour of a 36" gas pipeline in the desert of Iran, just south of the Asian Highway I came across a village and decided to drive to it. I soon realised that there was something strange, visibility deteriorated as the temperature climbed to over 50 in the shade and I had to stop as the steering wheel of the Landrover had become too hot to hold. I had just donned a pair of welding gauntlets when I noticed that the village I was driving towards had disappeared! The village that I had seen was a mirage, I had clearly seen the high mud walls around each house, the square, the minaret of the mosque that I had planned to visit, all very real, but actually really existing many, many miles from where I first saw it.

Iran is a strange country, some parts having temperatures of 50 above in the summer and 50 below in the winter! Impossible to weld pipework in such very cold conditions.
The Tehran Airport was designed and built by UK contractors. The Airport roof collapsed in the first winter after it was built due to the weight of the snow. Some engineering genius hadn't researched the Local Weather.
The Resident Engineer on that job could hardly put this down to unforeseen circumstances! British Civil Engineering at it's best! Oh, the shame of it.

One of the first sections of the 36" pipeline I was on ran through an area of desert where the sand was as fine as talcum powder. The dust from this fine sand got into the air intake of every single vehicle engine of both the Project Engineering Team and the Contractor. All these engines seized and had to be replaced. Including the engines of the Contractors Excavators & Sidebooms (D9 Catterpiller Tractors with an a frame Crane used for lifting pipe) were all written off. Every single vehicle had to be modified before work could re-start!.

My engineering report justifiably put the lengthy delay down to unforeseen circumstances. This straight pipework section didn't require route Surveying nor the services of a pipework Bending Engineer.
You never know what to expect in the desert. On some jobs I've seen the right of way (the pipeline 'roadway' that is bulldozed clear) covered with wall to wall horned vipers, so many that you would swear that the ground was moving like a river! Get bit by one and your'e in real trouble!

Regards,
Aah, Iran is another country which I loved when I visited during 1999 for the total solar eclipse. Wonderful friendly people and beautiful scenery and monuments. Great to read about your mirage experiences and the story about the roof of Tehran airport. BTW, I am an aircraft service engineer with Air India at the Mumbai International Airport.

Sorry about going off topic but can't write private messages to you or comment on your portfolio for one month since I am a newbie on this website/forum. Hope the others won't mind it.

Cheers,
Aadil.
Climb high; climb far;
Your goal, the sky,
Your aim, the stars!!!
Don
Posted 09/05/2011 - 18:41 Link
I know everybody loves thier own countries, as I do mine..... but I gotta say Canada is the only Country I ever want to travel in. (ok two trips to the USA, Iowa was nice).

I love the lack of guns and overall low crime rates compared to other places.

My Grandmother lived in her small town Ontario home for over fifty years.
Her door was only locked once that whole time. Her house was only broken into once during that whole time.

My Aunt was visiting from Calgary, and took Grandma out to bingo one night. My Aunt locked the front door on thier way out, and when they got back, my aunt had to break in through a window, as the front door lock had never been used and was broken. Nobody knows how many years that lock was broken, but we never used it again.

Fifty years and no break-in's, robberies or violent crimes in the whole neighbourhood.

I love this Country. (yes our cities do have crime, but it is easy enough to buy land in the countrysides).

You can drive 8000 kms across numerous provinces and never have a gun waved at you or have to pull out your id to the authorities. ( unless you speed...).

Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Edited by Don: 09/05/2011 - 18:42
Gwyn
Posted 09/05/2011 - 19:05 Link
Sorry, way off topic here .

Don, when I win the lottery tomorrow a long trip to Canada is high on the list of things to spend my winnings on. Drive across it one way, get the train back (or vice versa), hopefully get across to Newfoundland and Labrador as well.

Our house has only been broken into once too, in 36 years, a week after our first dog died . I came face to face with him too.
Don
Posted 09/05/2011 - 19:15 Link
Gwyn wrote:
Sorry, way off topic here .

Don, when I win the lottery tomorrow a long trip to Canada is high on the list of things to spend my winnings on. Drive across it one way, get the train back (or vice versa), hopefully get across to Newfoundland and Labrador as well.

Our house has only been broken into once too, in 36 years, a week after our first dog died . I came face to face with him too.
You definitely want to take the train, especially through the Rockies!
The drive is nice but the prairies are boring... my advice is this... plan you trip so you do most of your driving with the sun to your back when you hit the prairies... as in you do NOT want to get up at 6 am and be driving east into the sun, you will be sun burnt to a crisp by noon... I usually drive through the prairies at night..same idea goin west, get all your driving done in the am and get off the hwy for a rest for the afternoon...going west into the sun all afternoon you will get sunburnt....
sorry you got robbed glad you're ok...
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Edited by Don: 09/05/2011 - 19:20
Roy3
Posted 09/05/2011 - 23:39 Link
Quote:

Aah, Iran is another country which I loved when I visited during 1999 for the total solar eclipse. Wonderful friendly people and beautiful scenery and monuments. Great to read about your mirage experiences and the story about the roof of Tehran airport. BTW, I am an aircraft service engineer with Air India at the Mumbai International Airport.

Sorry about going off topic but can't write private messages to you or comment on your portfolio for one month since I am a newbie on this website/forum. Hope the others won't mind it.

Cheers,
Aadil.
A newbie same as me.
Off topic, yes, so what, it's just two Photographers being friendly towards one another!
I also found the Iranians very friendly, but they are a very excitable race.
I once came across an Iranian miles from anywhere, who had spread his food out in the shade of the pipeline that was under construction, He invited me to share the meagre food that he had, and I accepted. We had a feast because I brought to his 'table' my coolbox that contained enough food to feed a family of twelve, all of it Halal.
The belief that Allah will provide is so strong that many make trips across the desert without even carrying water, I have met many such travellers. You know what, they were right in their belief, because didn't I stop and provide them with both food and water! ( الله أكبر - God is Great)

I've witnessed the Iranians friendliness and kindness, I have also witnessed their cruelty. The driver beating his terrified emaciated horse because the wheels of the cart had become trapped in a Jube.
The Iranian labourer who trapped a beautiful brightly coloured bird in the Bus that was used to transport the workers. He held the frightened little bird in his hand then pulled all it's feathers out until it was dead.
The labourers on a lay barge at sea near Dubai, catching sea snakes then skinning them before throwing them still alive, back into the sea. Or tying the tails of two live fish together before throwing them back into the sea. I wish I could erase these memories.

I'm now back to eating largish portions and beginning to put on weight, I'm impatient to get out and about after being laid up these past seven months.
Plenty to photograph around where I live, lots of horses just a few hundred yards from my home. Many old Churches going back many hundreds of years just waiting to be snapped. Then there's a very active RAF airfield about four miles from here, it has a viewing area. I need a longish telephoto to catch the action at the airfield, but I haven't decided whether to get the Pentax 60-250 along with a tele converter or the 50-500 Sigma Bigma. I've heard good reports about both.
I still have my Sigma SD14, a good camera, only 3fps, but the buffer, it's so painfully slow I'm not even sure if it really has one! Too slow to catch the action at the airfield.
I have a Sigma 70-300 APO lens (Sigma Mount of course) that I've used successfully with the SD14, It's a cheap Lens that I bought after seeing some really excellent photos taken with it. I'm tempted to get one for the K-5 as a stand by until I make up my mind what to get next,
Then again, I'm also tempted to go for Primes instead of zooms, but the longer prime telephotos also have longer prices!

Well old son, take care,

Regards,
Roy
johnriley
Posted 10/05/2011 - 00:10 Link
Moved to General Chat.

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