A question of size


davem

Link Posted 29/08/2010 - 19:53
Is the K200d much smaller and lighter than the K20d?

Dave

Anvh

Link Posted 29/08/2010 - 20:50
I hope this helps.









K200D weights 630g (1.4lb) without batteries
K20D weights 715g (1.6lb) without and 800g (1.7lb) with battery
K7 weights 670g (1.4lb) without and 750g (1.6lb) with battery
KX weights 515g (1.1lb) without battery

edit: I know you didn't asked for it but I've added the KX and the K7 for additional reference
Stefan


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Last Edited by Anvh on 29/08/2010 - 20:58

gtis

Link Posted 29/08/2010 - 21:34
hi
i have both the k200 and the k20
and i can hardly tell the differance
neil
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bforbes

Link Posted 29/08/2010 - 21:50
I think the K200 does feel smaller and lighter than the K20
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StephenLewis

Link Posted 30/08/2010 - 11:37
I have two K20's and a K200, all with grips. To me all feel roughly the same weight but yet, with the K20's I must look to see which lens I'm using while with the K200, I can tell by the feel, or balance, or something. Can't be weight related, must be ergonomics or my senility really is starting to show.

Cheers,

Stephen
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i-Berg

Link Posted 30/08/2010 - 11:42
Dave,

It might be useful to contextualise all this - why you ask?
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davem

Link Posted 30/08/2010 - 14:30
Many thanks for the replies. Special thanks to Stefan for his usual meticulous research, very useful!!!

Quite right I-Berg the context is important however I wanted unbiased opinion.

I have been thinking that I could do with something smaller (like my old DS) but weatherproof that could have a small prime (in ideal conditions) or the 18-55WR for using on long days in the UK hills ( ususally damp). I find that I tend not to take the K20 as it seems heavy.

The other problem is that the camera bag I have takes up a large amount of space in the rucsack. Ideally I would like a wrap for the camera such as those used for pentax lenses. I could then place the lot in a waterproof bag in my rucsack. Most camera rucsacks do not seem to have enough space for spare clothing, waterproofs etc.

Dave
Last Edited by davem on 30/08/2010 - 14:35

Anvh

Link Posted 30/08/2010 - 14:39
davem wrote:
I have been thinking that I could do with something smaller (like my old DS) but weatherproof that could have a small prime (in ideal conditions) or the 18-55WR for using on long days in the UK hills ( ususally damp). I find that I tend not to take the K20 as it seems heavy.

K200D are quite rare to find second hand but as you can see the K7 is smaller, maybe trade in the K20D for a k7?
Stefan


K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Last Edited by Anvh on 30/08/2010 - 14:41

davem

Link Posted 30/08/2010 - 14:54
Stefan, as the others have said the k200d feels similar in size and weight to the K20 so that is not for me. The K7 is a thought prhaps I should save up and wait for the new releases and the usual reound of sales..


For now I think I will concentrate on how to the the K20 into the rucsack, well protected along with my other gear.


Dave

Anvh

Link Posted 30/08/2010 - 17:55
There are camera rug sack big enough to serve as a day backpack.
These for example http://www.tamrac.com/g_daypack.htm

and these from Lowepro
http://products.lowepro.com/product/Orion-AW,1987,7.htm
http://products.lowepro.com/product/Rover-AW-II,2024,14.htm
http://products.lowepro.com/product/Primus-AW,1995,14.htm
Those above are AW for All Weather so should be fine in the rain.

This any says Lowepro is waterproof and plus point is you can use it with a hydration system.
http://products.lowepro.com/product/DryZone-Rover,1936,18.htm
Stefan


K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ

simonkit

Link Posted 30/08/2010 - 18:37
Hi,

I have the K20D & always take it hiking...my recommendations would be to buy a new rucksac, a proper hiking one not a camera one, the camera ones just don't cut it for me when hiking, even though I use one the rest of the time (no offence Steffan) rather than a new camera - I now use an Osprey Atmos which truly makes a big difference regarding load bearing, if you don't own one already it will certainly make more difference than swapping DSLR bodies !!

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Last Edited by simonkit on 30/08/2010 - 18:41

Anvh

Link Posted 30/08/2010 - 18:51
No offence taken Simon.
Lowe does make "real" backpacks for hiking under the Lowe Alpine name so the question is how much of that do you see back in the camera backpacks from Lowe Pro that are meant for day hikes.
I've tried the Primus and that one does seem to offer the support needed but still like you said a real packback is better I think better.
The only problem is with getting a packback you suggest is that the sizes for day hikes only have one compartment so how do you keep your wet cloths, food, water separated from the camera gear?
I've a good day backpack and played with the idea but never found a solution to the problem.
Stefan


K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Last Edited by Anvh on 30/08/2010 - 19:03

Technoblurb

Link Posted 30/08/2010 - 19:27
Most camera bags I have come across just don't work for me when hiking, they always seem to have insufficient storage for the temperamental UK weather, raincoat, waterproof trousers, first aid kit and so on. I do have an AW Trekker that has no storage space for anything other than camera gear and a AW400 flipside, this is great for day to day stuff but the body is way to short for me. As a result I always end up with the camera in its own bag and one spare lens in a pouch, both end up stuffed in my trusty deuter rucksack when the heavens open.

I think a possible hole exists in the market, maybe the first Pentax User design bag is in the offing!!!!

Anvh

Link Posted 30/08/2010 - 20:39
You do have backpacks like these link
It has a lower compartment big enough for your camera gear I think, I wished Lowe would make some camera inserts that fit in such a bag easily

Here is a review of one of those backpacks link
Stefan


K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ

davem

Link Posted 30/08/2010 - 20:43
So we are all thinking the same way. A day on the hills does need a proper rucsack.

The gear I need to keep dry goes in drysacs - they come in all shapes and sizes.

What do you put the camera in I have plenty of pouches, but the camera bags are all bulkly.

Dave
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