77mm filters

Luke_
Posted 12/10/2009 - 09:11 Link
Am I right in thinking that the Samsung 12-24 is a 77mm filter as well as the 16-50 f2.8?

So I can use the same filters on both lenses?

Im just checking as I am in the process of buying a Samsung 12-24 which has filter size of 77mm and I am also looking to buy the Pentax 16-50 f2.8 as that uses the same filter size of 77mm.

So am I right in thinking the filters I buy will fit both lenses?
Body's: Pentax K20D | Pentax MX
Lenses: Samsung 12-24 f4 | Pentax 18-55 Kit | 28mm Prime | 50mm Prime | Vivitar Series 1 70-210
Luke_
Posted 12/10/2009 - 09:27 Link
Body's: Pentax K20D | Pentax MX
Lenses: Samsung 12-24 f4 | Pentax 18-55 Kit | 28mm Prime | 50mm Prime | Vivitar Series 1 70-210
pschlute
Posted 12/10/2009 - 10:00 Link
Luke

Both lenses tak a 77mm thread filter yes.

Regarding the ebay filter deal, this is my opinion :

If you are going to spend a lot of money on aquiring good lenses, you will be doing yourself a disservice by putting a cheap filter on the front of it. I have no idea if the ones you linked to are any good or not, but a cheaper filter is likely to give you less of an effect than a better made one; impair image quality more;and possibly introduce more flare.

Now there have been discussions on here before where less expensive filters have served very well for some forum members, and I am sure someone will have done scientific tests showing that the most expensive are not the best.

I guess what I am saying is that like most things in life, you get what you pay for, and cheapest is likely not to be the best in this instance.

I have a Hoya Pro-1 digital which I use on the 16-50 which I think cost about £80.
Clarky
Posted 12/10/2009 - 10:06 Link
Yes you are right, the filters will fit both lenses. But I wouldn't put those filters you have in your link onto my lenses.

You pay big money for quality lenses and you put cheap filters in front of them. Bad economics if you ask me. Stick with the well known brands like Hoya and if your budget stretches that far, get the pro versions.

Why do you want filters anyway, protection : I only use Cir-polarisers on my lenses.
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Clarky
Posted 12/10/2009 - 10:08 Link
Pete was to quick for me, but at least we think alike
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pschlute
Posted 12/10/2009 - 10:25 Link
Clarky wrote:
Pete was to quick for me, but at least we think alike
Haha

.......and like Clarky I also only use a polariser. No UV or "protection" filter for me. No need.
Luke_
Posted 12/10/2009 - 11:25 Link
I'm after a polariser and a nd6 filter, that's all.

Thanks for the info, ill go for the hoya pro set
Body's: Pentax K20D | Pentax MX
Lenses: Samsung 12-24 f4 | Pentax 18-55 Kit | 28mm Prime | 50mm Prime | Vivitar Series 1 70-210
grahamwalton
Posted 12/10/2009 - 11:54 Link
Have a look at Marumi Filters, they are a similar specification (slim and multi coated) to Hoya but at much less cost.
77mm Hoya Pro Polariser £104.71
77mm Marumi Polariser £56.76

I have been using Marumi for sometime and think the quality is right up there with Hoya.
Friendly Regards
Graham
Anvh
Posted 12/10/2009 - 12:07 Link
B+W is also an option although it seems I'm the only one shooting with them
Oh Heliopan are also very good I heard.
Why is everyone here so Hoya minded... trying to support Pentax indirectly maybe?
Stefan
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Edited by Anvh: 12/10/2009 - 12:13
grahamwalton
Posted 12/10/2009 - 12:31 Link
B & W 77mm MRC Circular Polariser £129.99; more costly than Hoya.

I would sugest that traditionally most uk photographic shops stocked mainly Hoya Filters. Perhaps this is why UK photographers are Hoya minded.
Friendly Regards
Graham
thoughton
Posted 12/10/2009 - 12:54 Link
I recently got a Marumi 77m circular polariser after reading this comparison of the major players. Read before you buy, because Hoya fared shockingly badly (considering their fairly high cost)!!!! (Although note that Hoya had all top 3 positions in the same site's UV filter comparison). Also worth noting that B+W's most expensive CPL turned out to be a LPL and Heliopan and Tiffen were found to be amongst the worst performers.
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Edited by thoughton: 12/10/2009 - 12:58
Anvh
Posted 12/10/2009 - 13:17 Link
Graham, like you said UK photographers are Hoya minded might also be the case that the EU mainland are more B+W orientated since they are German.
Here B+W is often cheaper the Hoya link

Tim interesting comparison.
Also worth noting that B+W's most expensive CPL turned out to be a LP
Yeah very strange and to be honest I've never seen that filter among the filter list of B+W so that's very interesting.
But as a note, linear pol don't interferes with today's Pentax AF systems so could be used.
Stefan
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Edited by Anvh: 12/10/2009 - 13:25
K10D
Posted 12/10/2009 - 13:24 Link
I use Pentax filters as they are available in the Gulf as well as Sigma EX, Nikon and Marumi. Hoya do not get a lot of press here for some reason?

I use a UV or skylight on all lenses as fine sand sticks to them, so without them, it would stick to the fron element.

Regards
Too far from a shore.
johnriley
Posted 12/10/2009 - 13:33 Link
Quote:
B+W is also an option although it seems I'm the only one shooting with them
Not the only one Stefan. When I do use a filter (rarely these days) my collection are B+W, Heliopan, Pentax and Hoya.
Best regards, John
Luke_
Posted 12/10/2009 - 13:40 Link
Im thinking I may not even bother with a filter now.

Just use a lens hood and then cap when the lens is not in use?

Or just go for a protector?
Body's: Pentax K20D | Pentax MX
Lenses: Samsung 12-24 f4 | Pentax 18-55 Kit | 28mm Prime | 50mm Prime | Vivitar Series 1 70-210

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