28mm and 35mm for landscapes

sraff
Posted 02/11/2008 - 21:33 Link
Just a quickie.
For landscapes how much difference does that 7mm make from the 35mm to the 28mm? Really noticable or does the 35mm on a film body give a good wide angle. Of course this is subjective but I'd be interested in your personal thoughts.

Thank you.
S Raff
johnriley
Posted 02/11/2008 - 21:43 Link
In the early 1960s 35mm was the widest lens in common use and 28mm was considered ultra-wide. As tastes changed, so did the perception of this and now 24mm would be the absolute minimum requirement for an ultra-wide lens.

However, 28mm is a jump from 35mm that is significant. A 35mm is considered by some to be a standard lens, a 28mm is certainly not.

All the above applies to focal length in relation to film bodies.
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sraff
Posted 02/11/2008 - 21:56 Link
Thanks for looking in John, thought you may

Well I now have both the 28mm f3.5 and the 35mm f3.5 Super Takumars on the way as in my usual style I left research part to the last minute and couldn't decide, to be honest though the price you pay for these little gems is a breathe of fresh air coming from wallet emptying Canon background. I cant wait to get these and would love to see any sample photographs other users may have.
S Raff
womble
Posted 03/11/2008 - 17:28 Link
I found 35mm on my film bodies was not usually wide enough for what I wanted and needed and so went with the 28mm most of the time. I probably took more photos with my SMC-M 28mm f2.8 than any other lens until I "went digital" (which isn't a fair comparison as I'll shoot off many more digital frames in a day than I ever did with film).

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sraff
Posted 03/11/2008 - 19:30 Link
Thanks Kris.

I'm not to good with patients and waiting for my new glass is getting me all jittery...

I can see this being one of those cases where it could be easy to take the disired effect to far, hense I took the 24mm out of the equation. Mind you I bet it a nice lens.
S Raff
rparmar
Posted 03/11/2008 - 21:37 Link
I would say that 28mm would frame a lot more landscape shots the way you want them, and without distortion (if a good lens). 35mm is too narrow. 24mm is another option but this has noticeably more distortion than 28mm. It may not seem like a big jump, but it is 14% wider... that is significant.

Even on digital I prefer 28mm to 35mm, though for landscapes my 16-45 zoom has in the past been my lens of choice. The 16mm equates to a film 24mm field of view, so you can see the numbers match up rather well.
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Edited by rparmar: 03/11/2008 - 21:38
hefty1
Posted 03/11/2008 - 21:54 Link
I think this is one of those questions where only you will know what you prefer once you've had a chance to try both lengths out.

When I was regularly shooting film (pre-digital days) I had a Minolta X700 with a Tokina 17mm lens and a Minolta 35mm lens - bypassing the 28mm focal length altogether.

Now I mostly shoot digital I have a Pentax DA12-24 which gives me the equivalent field-of-view to 18mm - 36mm. Funnily enough, it nearly always gets used at one of those two extremes (mostly the longer end) - so it looks like I was on the right track all the time!
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fatspider
Posted 03/11/2008 - 21:56 Link
I used a 35mm lens on my good old OM30 for many years and never felt I needed to go any wider. Its all down to your style of photography I suppose.
The 35mm was also a lot more usefull, in fact for many years it was the only lens I had. For a 35mm film format I reckon its probably the most useful, after all, most 35mm compacts will have something like a 35mm lens.
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sraff
Posted 05/11/2008 - 22:35 Link
Received my 35mm today and in great condition so very happy. Hopefully the 28mm will be on its way soon and I can get out and see how they compare and work for me.
S Raff
petercf
Posted 08/11/2008 - 22:36 Link
Interesting discussion.

On my old SLR,I was always looking for a 20 or 21mm for true 'wide angle' with little distortion.

Now with digital, I assume that means getting a 15mm or less. So I guess a 16mm that wide open is true, linear and fast is a good option for all landscape.
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rparmar
Posted 08/11/2008 - 23:31 Link
petercf wrote:
Now with digital, I assume that means getting a 15mm or less. So I guess a 16mm that wide open is true, linear and fast is a good option for all landscape.
Again, this is why the DA 16-45 is a recommended lens. The focal lengths perfectly cover what you might need for landscapes, it is fast enough at f/4 for this application, and it has nice rendering and low distortion. Plus it's cheap.

For those not addicted to primes, it's a no-brainer. Get a polarising filter for it and you're all set.
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Pwynnej
Posted 09/11/2008 - 18:57 Link
rparmar wrote:
petercf wrote:
Now with digital, I assume that means getting a 15mm or less. So I guess a 16mm that wide open is true, linear and fast is a good option for all landscape.
Again, this is why the DA 16-45 is a recommended lens. The focal lengths perfectly cover what you might need for landscapes, it is fast enough at f/4 for this application, and it has nice rendering and low distortion. Plus it's cheap.

For those not addicted to primes, it's a no-brainer. Get a polarising filter for it and you're all set.
My DA* 16-50 covers this range....

so I would not need my FA 28, 35 or 50, or the FA 31 Limited for that matter....

Or I could invest my money....
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