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Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

I have to agree with mannesty, the technical part of pete's shot is very nice but the skintone is not good. The skintone of the OP's images look a lot better to me allthough I have to agree with Pete that they are not in focus and that the exposure isn't very good.

Posted by golfdiesel on 17/05/2007 - 22:39

Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

Pete, If you only learn one thing about portrait photography, it's got to be skin tone. The original posters shots IMHO are excellent. Yours . . . . The hair is lovely, the hair band is pin sharp, the fur around the collar is excellent, the coat is superb, and the backdrop is nicely out of foc...

Posted by petekd on 17/05/2007 - 23:01

Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

Pete, Look at the bridge of Helen's nose and her right cheek (the one on the left in the pic, just to be absolutely clear), they look almost white. I'm not saying Helen doesn't have good skin tone, only that it is not captured/displayed/presented very well in your photo. The image is so sha...

Posted by Mannesty on 17/05/2007 - 23:16

Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

If there's one thing this thread proves, it's how subjective this lark is. I get pilloried for shots that aren't quite sharp enough, Pete gets roasted for shots that are too sharp. And meanwhile there's a special language, where you have to be "in the know" to have the slightest idea...

Posted by ChrisA on 17/05/2007 - 23:53

Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

Ok Guys Here is the run down I spoke with a top London Photographer in Depth at Focus and his tip like many others is not to conform to the rules in photography. I asked him the best way to achieve good skin tone in a portrait and he said two words " Over expose" He explained it is...

Posted by petekd on 18/05/2007 - 07:52

Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

Hi Chris Points taken I must admit though as I have said before our opinions are what make us as a Species very unique. We don’t all have to agree. I still think the barmaids shots show a fed up look but perhaps that is what the photographer was trying to achieve. Expression of mood etc.. ...

Posted by petekd on 18/05/2007 - 13:06

Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

Yes the focus and DOF could be better, but still I find Kamal's shots attractive and full of subtle character and mystery. The unusual background adds to the atmosphere (though it is too in-focus in the third picture). I could imagine finding the pictures in an art gallery if they were just slight...

Posted by iceblinker on 18/05/2007 - 19:35

Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

The unusual background adds to the atmosphere (though it is too in-focus in the third picture). I could imagine finding the pictures in an art gallery if they were just slightly better. :shock: Subjectivity. I rest my case. Conversely, Petekd's portrait could be of anyone anywhere. Loo...

Posted by ChrisA on 18/05/2007 - 19:42

Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

Subjectivity. I rest my case. That is very true. But at least there is something to be subjective about! :wink: I know virtually nothing about the art world, but I know enough to understand that there's a never-ending debate between two schools of thought, which I might contrast as follows: &...

Posted by ChrisA on 18/05/2007 - 20:05

Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

For me 'Kemal's' pictures look like they could have been taken on a phone camera. The only 'give away' is the sharpness of some of the stone work. They lack impact, there is no clear indication of what the subject is, the wall, the girl or the back-ground, and the focus is wrong. Pete's pic,...

Posted by Galoot on 18/05/2007 - 20:16

Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

I said 'strange' because I see it as 'strange'. The picture looks normal overall, but to me the skin looks rubberized, ( is that a word ). The hair band is in focus, the fur on the coat hood is in focus, so I would assume the skin, i.e. face, between the two should also be in focus, but no, it's...

Posted by Galoot on 18/05/2007 - 20:57

Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

However, there are some absolutes in terms of technique and quality and you can understand this if you compare perhaps the best glossy magazine fashion shots with the portraits on the forum. Can you see the difference? It isn't just a matter of opinion and nothing else. I certainly can see the dif...

Posted by ChrisA on 19/05/2007 - 00:51

Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

I had a feeling pete's image had been 'worked on'. I quite like the soft focus, informal feel of kemal's images, not quite snaps, not quite portraits. Whether this was intended or not we can only know if kamal tells us. regarding the 'Art' vs 'Not Art' debate. In a recent magazine (can't remem...

Posted by justgetoutandride on 19/05/2007 - 15:49

Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

I had a feeling pete's image had been 'worked on'. I quite like the soft focus, informal feel of kemal's images, not quite snaps, not quite portraits. Whether this was intended or not we can only know if kamal tells us. regarding the 'Art' vs 'Not Art' debate. In a recent magazine (can't remem...

Posted by redlm on 19/05/2007 - 19:54

Bartender Girl Photoshoot - Critiques Please

... but often the pictures of mine I like the most are different from what I was trying to create. This then is a happy accident. I would be very frustrated if the picture I was trying to take is very different to what I get, even if it turns out to be a good image in itself. The result might b...

Posted by justgetoutandride on 20/05/2007 - 14:16

pistyll rhaeadr waterfall took this weekend

Now I'm really confuddled... EDIT: Wait, It is back, and larger too?? and less of the multiple focal planes, I think the downsampling may have caused that...

Posted by Tyr on 07/05/2007 - 17:33

pistyll rhaeadr waterfall took this weekend

Pete, The camera doesn't "only do -2EV" ;) What's probably happened is you've used evaluative metering (the green one), and tried to use -2EV... The problem is that the surrounding view is quite dark, and the water is relatively bright. Evaluative metering will often get these imbalan...

Posted by MattMatic on 07/05/2007 - 21:29

pistyll rhaeadr waterfall took this weekend

I would have to agree. I have seen some nice flash sites, but more often than not, they tend not to be helpful in getting the user to where they want to be (or where you want them to be). If the Flash program is to help generate a clear intelligent user interface I'm all for it. The extra distr...

Posted by amoringello on 11/05/2007 - 15:58

pistyll rhaeadr waterfall took this weekend

I know, but they seem to be doing it ALL DAY LONG!!! It can be very irritating. Can't we go back to when most people didn't have broadband, when there was some network speed even at 512?

Posted by Tyr on 11/05/2007 - 19:01

Pnetax 100DX?

Someone on another forum suggested that Pentax should put a 10 MP sensor in the K100D, just to bring it back into competition with the rest. Nikon have done it with the D40X to meet demand. It's not that I think it needs 10MP but it loses out regularly in tests with the remark that it is only 6MP. ...

Posted by Gwyn on 08/05/2007 - 13:08

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