Weekly #684 - Small Rivers and Streams Competition

Competition Details
Closing Date: 06/09/2020
Judge: snakey

For this weeks competition I would like to see the smaller waters and how they fit within their environment, trying to get a feel of where they are or what they are used for. It could be middle of the woods, middle of the village, used for fishing, used for industry, whatever.

The usual rules apply:
Pentax cameras and acceptable clones.
The winner is expected to judge and offer some comments/critiques of submissions.
You are free to use images from your archives, or take something new.
The challenge closes on Sunday 6th September 2020 at midnight BST.
Competition Entries


Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 09:04
As usual there are a great set of photos entered into this competition which only makes the judging more difficult. My observations are as I see them and hopefully taken as so.

Looks a Mission Impossible
First entry shows a place I have visited many times over the years to watch the salmon trying to navigate the falls. Great title for this photo as I just don't know how they do it. The fast shutter speed catches the power of the water and the salmon twisting in the air still swimming. Great shot.

Mill Race in Derbyshire
A nice setting of this small stream as it flows through the woods and fields and the life that uses it. For me the photo looks a bit muted, probably due to the side lighting from the sun coming in to the long focal length at 300mm. It's a shame that the pigeon is cutting the frame line of the field and the foreground sheep is facing away, but you don't have control over those factors. We all know that animals have awful timing.

Lowran Burn
I do like these shots that blur the water, which to me gives a sense of movement. The content also gives a story of where this stream travels on it's course through woodland forest and over the strong stonework in the foreground. I would have preferred if you had moved marginally to the left so that the foreground tree on the right was on the edge of the frame giving a better view of the water fall. However, ticks all the boxes for me.

River Derwent
Nice shot of a slower moving river with a barren landscape behind. I like the centrally framed bridge with corresponding reflection and the path leading on to it which gives a good focal point.

The first thing that strikes me in this is the vibrant colour of the trees and vegetation and then you see the stream which leads you up under the bridge and back into the middle again for another look. Then you see the path and do it all again. I also like the decision to shoot portrait which brings in the height of the trees. Great shot.

Mill Stream, Fountain's Abbey
I wonder how many years this stream has been running through the Abbey and serving the community that used it. A shame that it now flows unused. This photo tells how it is now and the stream leads me through the ruins to think about the past. Again, good use of portrait to fill the shot with information.

The River Colne
A small river not too far from me that I have seen many times. This is a good shot with the reeds, concrete sides and railway bridge framing the medium paced river and leading you through under the bridge and wondering what next to expect round the corner.

The Waveney
Another great shot telling the way the river is used and where it belongs. I think that it resembles a painting that could have been done by John Constable capturing the countryside (checkout Constaples "Wivenhoe Park"). I do like post editing and think this shot would look even more fantastic with a bit of sharpening and colour enhancement.

Beautiful photo with the water made to look like it has movement and flows away and out of shot. For me I would have a marginally quicker shutter speed, around half to one second, but that's just personal preference. I love the sharpness and the way the colours pop out. Again, nice framing and lead in lines to the focal point. Brilliant.

Mountain Stream
This certainly looks like a cold mountain stream that has had a journey tipping over many a granite rock. Super movement in the water and choice of portrait shot is good to help fill the frame with all the story. I love the detail in the rock and wonder how the shot would look converted fully to black and white.

Don't fall in
I'm sure the students would have behaved extremely well if the teacher HAD fallen in, NOT... Yet again, another use of a river a nicely captured here to tell the story of the children watching and concentrating.

Small stream of WSBG
I like the way that there is only a small stream here and you have to pick out the detail in the stones and the colour reflections of the sky. The bracken is also beautifully detailed and there is much to look around and admire about this shot.

Moorland Stream
Great shot of a stream that has gathered from all the rain that has fallen and emerged from the moors. The central lone tree helps to tell the story of the isolation and the journey that the stream has encountered. Beautifully sharp shot and colours. Maybe a slower shutter speed to blur the water for movement, but again, that's a personal choice.

River Pellice
I like the way that streams and rivers often come towards you and lead you through the composition and into the shot, and here is another perfect example of that. Great use of shutter speed to slow the water that falls over the colourful foreground rocks. I like the angle of the rocks as they lead you across the frame and explore the whole composition.

In Water
You forget that water is under us and there are many miles under towns and cities that need to be looked after. I have never been down to the city underground caverns but this photo gives a good example of what they are like. There is nice detail in the brickwork ceiling and leading on to the dark tunnel. Makes me think I don't want to be down there...

Now that I have looked through all of them, it makes the task even more difficult to choose a winner, but here goes. Well done to all.

1st - Moorland Stream
2nd - Lowran Burn
3rd - Mountain Stream
H/C - Cascade, River Pellice, The Waveny, Cragside


Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 09:48
Many thanks for the 3rd place and congratulations to the other podium places. However I note that the winner was shot on a Panasonic and not a Pentax. Should it really be there? A good subject and excellent comments.


Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 10:58
noelm wrote:
Many thanks for the 3rd place and congratulations to the other podium places. However I note that the winner was shot on a Panasonic and not a Pentax. Should it really be there? A good subject and excellent comments.

Obviously a misunderstanding of the rules.
Good critique on the other (Legal) images.



Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 11:27
We seem to have chosen an ineligible entry as the winner this time. I don't think Panasonic count as one of the 'acceptable clones'.
John K


Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 12:15
My apologies for not spotting that the entry in this competition was not on a Pentax camera. I presume I can leave this to the competition administrators to finalise a decision and reallocate positions should that be the outcome.
All the gear, no idea (but trying)
K5, Tamron 17-50mm f2.8, Sigma 70-200mm f2.8, Tamron 90mm f2.8, SMC FA 50mm f1.4, Sigma 150-500mm, Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4, plus far more bits than I need.


Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 13:33
Wonderful set of pictures.... good job I thought today was Sunday.....
mind you, my choice wouldn't heve been amongst the runners.....
Congratulations to the ineligible entry.... hard luck Tiny2... great picture.
Congratulations to the real winner... but which of the HCs takes 3rd spot?
Love Nigelk's shot of the Waveny....
Never be afraid to talk about your techniques...
"Give a thousand photographers...
the same camera, lens and scene...
and you'll always get a thousand different takes!!"


Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 13:44
I'm inclined just to let it be and put it down to an error. So the winner remains the winner, but it reminds us that the competitions are for Pentax kit only, for next time.

Is that OK with everyone?
Best regards, John


Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 14:35
Thank you for your kind feedback. This was my first go at one of these. Great set of shots to judge.


Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 15:18
johnriley wrote:
I'm inclined just to let it be and put it down to an error. So the winner remains the winner, but it reminds us that the competitions are for Pentax kit only, for next time.

Is that OK with everyone?

Doesn't that set a precedent that it doesn't really matter any more?
John K


Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 16:42
As long as we realise it was just a one-off mistake it shouldn't set a precedent. In any event, it reminds me to double check the entries just before judging, so next time it would be caught. The judge can also check.

There hasn't been any other feedback, so are we to assume that we are OK with this? Anybody else want to have any input?
Best regards, John


Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 17:06
I think we can let things stay as they are for this one time is my opinion. Well done all, a really lovely set of images and good well judged competition.


Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 19:38
A great selection of images let down by one ‘careless’ mistake. I have no idea how a LUMIX photo got mixed up with the Pentax file. Therefore I feel it only fair that I withdraw the entry and first place should go to Superb ‘Lowran Burn’.

I checked my files and it does indeed say ‘Panasonic’ so I therefore feel it only fair I withdraw the entry.

I’ll make sure I check the Exif data next time.

I apologise to everyone who took part this week.



Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 19:57
I am very careful that I enter Pentax Camera photos which I have been using for more than 60 years, although I now have a Sony Compact RX100 VI due to no similar Pentax being available except possibly the Ricoh GR 111 now, which wasn't about when I chose the Sony. I have found that possibly due to my age (8 that my K1 is too heavy to carry any distance. That been said I was disappointed when the Panasonic Photo was accepted as the rules of the competition are very clear, and indeed pictures of non-Pentax have been withdraw before judging previously. However I have looked at Tiny2's portfolio of Pentax shots and it is all Pentax, so I can see entering the Panasonic was a genuine mistake. But I agree with JAK that it establishes a precedent. If you wish me as 2nd choice to go ahead with a new competition please let me know. With best wishes to everyone and no hard feelings. John R
Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 20:20
Thanks Snakey, nice competition and Judging. Genuine mistake can easily happen-not the end of the world. Congrats to all the placings.


Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 21:01
As Tiny2 has withdrawn, we can respect that decision. It's not a problem, just a mistake and we all do that from time to time.

Johnwnjr please step up, I'll see if we can arrange a proper link for you.
Best regards, John


Link Posted 07/09/2020 - 21:49
OK. I suggest competition "Photographic Pattern Picture". That is the subject can be anything that has a pattern formation in it, with due attention to composition and lighting.


Link Posted 08/09/2020 - 00:10
We'll get it set up for you ASAP so you'll get the correct e-mails and links and we preserve the competition continuity. Meanwhile, we can all get our thinking caps on.
Best regards, John


Link Posted 08/09/2020 - 09:58
Rick has weaved his IT magic and set up the links and the winning photo, so now we just await our winner setting up the new competition.
Best regards, John


Link Posted 08/09/2020 - 19:12
Pity about the mistakes in what I though was a most interesting challenge. In any event, these things are bound to happen, we're human after all. Tiny2 did the honorable thing. Congrats to Johnwnjr, noelm, and the HC's RayW, Toni60, NIgelk and PRYorkshire. Thanks to our judge for the C&C's. Always appreciated.

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