did you tell them it was crap darren

its known as double standards pipinmels

funny thing is i wasnt even on about any in that leauge

none of those are owned by the moon and probably never will david

i did say that pentax should be jumping on that bandwagon but that dont count

if we dont discuss what other companys are doing and what our opinion of it then it is a waste of time saying to pentax you want this this and this
like we should be making our point about third party lens why should we sit back and be looked down at by others

pu should be leading the way to get more out of pentax/ricoh in the uk and othe company ideas come from people discusing thing

looks like it should be taken down other makes are involved

have no idea but some of the pentax people say its driconion
thought it was a free world

Sorry folks but I have been told off for mentioning another brand even though I did say that Pentax could jump on the band wagon So it looks like you can't compare makes any more against a Pentax oh bummer supose this will get deleted as well

Hope you have a good sense of humour as well welcome to the mad house

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just out of curiosity would that be still the same problem with the grip on