That's very interesting - thank you for doing another set of comparison images, Steve.

All the best.
Philip

Wonderful rust I presume - thank you, Barrie.

Cheers.
Philip

And I would be interested to see the colour version.

Philip

Hello Kris.

I'm not sure how or whether these quotes are related. Although I don't use the camera in my phone, I wouldn't dismiss their use. I know several people who make excellent images with their phones, some of which are club competition winners, but they still seem to invest time and money in their camera system too.

A few examples doesn't indicate the whole picture so, as the OP mentioned that "Olympus have blamed the rise of camera phones as a significant factor in their decision", I was simply wondering whether the numbers of people moving exclusively from particular systems to phone camera use might affect some system camera makers more than others.

It is, of course, an example of wishful thinking, as I'm hoping it doesn't affect Pentax quite so drastically!!

Cheers.
Philip

Steve, thank you for your post - those tests are very helpful examples. To help clarify further the effect of noise and noise reduction, do you have image 2 (at 1/400sec) but with the +4 stops added in camera (ISO 3200) for comparison?

Philip

Vic, from your interest in the GR and the Q, it appears that your aim is to lose a lot of weight. Perhaps consider a body such as a Sony A6000. It has nearly half the weight of the K-3, adapters for Pentax K to Sony E are easy to find, you retain the image advantages of a 24 MP APS-C sensor like the K-3ii, it is also a well-featured camera in other aspects, and can still be bought new for under £500.

Philip

Compared with others (e.g. Olympus) perhaps the users of certain systems (e.g. Pentax) are of a demographic less likely to transfer their photographic activities to their mobile phones?

Philip

Yes Peter. The "focal point", aka "centre of interest" or "somewhere for the eye (sic) to rest", is sometimes inappropriately quoted by photo judges as though it were an essential "rule" of photography, although there are of course many images for which it is irrelevant to the photographer's intentions.

Andreas Gursky might be just a bit poorer if his scenic photos had complied with this rule! Or perhaps not?

Philip

The colour version for me - it seems to have depth (in a 3D sense), whereas the mono seems flat. The colour contrast - green foliage and brown bark - also raises the colour version above the mono in this case.

Philip

Another enjoyable set - my top choices are 5 and 6.

Philip