has anyone else tried this yet?

I have my K10D set to MTF program. Now perhaps I am being naive, but I was expecting this program to bais towards the lens best aperture, but that isn't what I'm seeing.

It seems to select wide open in 90% of situations. Initially I thought it was just that I was shooting in low light, but earlier on today it picked 1/1000th at F4.5 with the kit zoom. Now I'm sorry but the kit zoom is not at its best at F4.5, surely in that situation it ought to be biasing towards something more like F8?

am I doing something stupid here?

great news! this means all us Linux geeks should soon be able to run our favourite linux RAW converters with the K10D files.

I think they are just using the old power zoom contacts to power the sonic motor. Of course I could be wrong, but I can't see them resurecting power zoom fully.

It's not so much a fear as interest, since I now have a K10D. I'm interested to see how they will deal with the changeover period when the K10D needs sonic motors to really be at its best but most of the pentax users out there wont be able to make use of these lenses.

I have faith in Pentax, they have always managed to make things work in the past at least for reasonably likely lens/camera combinations, so I'm sure they'll make a sensible decision. I'm just not quite sure what that will be.

I see your point with the dual wheels and hyperprogram. My film cameras are MZ-7, MZ-50 (now sold), SFX and Z50p (bizzarly in that order, don't ask) so I've never had twin control wheels before the K10D. At the moment I still see the rear control wheel as a compromise to make the removal of aperture ring support acceptable rather than an improvement though, perhaps my impression will change.

I'm not being over dramatic, you simply miss understood what I asked, I WAS talking about the whole lens line

I tend to agree with your suggestion that the only lenses with SSM will be the * ones, this would make far more sense, but as yet we have had no word on how many or which lenses will be equipped with SSM, other than that the * lenses will be. Perhaps some will be available either with or without? other manufacturers do it.

Also the reason for an aperture ring on an AF lens is some of us still prefer the Aperture ring to the in body adjustment. Whenever I use my MZ cameras I always use the aperture ring. It also makes a very fast way of going from any mode at all to aperture priority.

true, but if ALL the new lenses are sonic motor and therefore unsuitable for the K100, I think a lot of people would have a perfect right to be annoyed.

There's "it's an inexpencive camera" and then theres "oh by the way, that brand new model you bought 6 months ago? we don't make lenses for it anymore, sorry"

It would be very unwise and dare I say it rather Canon-esq. Not a Pentax like move at all.

any news on how many and which of these lenses will have the new focus motors?

I suspect they wont all have them right away, since focus motor equipped lenses are unlikely to AF on the K100D and earlier cameras and that will seriously limit sales and seriously P*** off a lot of people who recently bought K100Ds as the latest model.

money no object it would be the 60-250/4 DA*, but considering the price that lens has got to be the D-FA300/4 is much more likely

mmmm interesting, note the lack of *s on the primes, perhaps they will even be vaguely affordable, that really would cause LBA problems.

particularly interested in the 35/2, might soon be time to retire my beloved Zeiss 35/2.4

I don't know about everyone else, but the first thing I did when I got my K10D (and my DL2 for that matter) was to go through the custom settings menu and set things up as I anticipate wanting them. I'll probably change a few things as I go along, but for now I'm pleased.

The only thing I can't yet decide on is what to program into "User" mode. It seems like a very neat idea, I just can't figure out what I'll do with it.

So, has anyone had one of those "that will be just perfect for ......" moments with user mode?

just interested.