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George Lazarette wrote:
If you're such a good photographer that the only thing wrong with your pictures is purely their technical quality, then fair enough.

G
I don't think there is a Photographer on the Planet that in all reality falls into that bracket!

Comment by jules posted on Ok Ok I know! 17-70 Vs 16-50 at 20/02/2012 - 23:35

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Mike-P wrote:
jules wrote:

I've Got to stop chasing the greatest of everything, anyway and when it's good enough it'll do...
Trouble is it's never quite good enough is it
Emotional Rollercoaster...

Comment by jules posted on Ok Ok I know! 17-70 Vs 16-50 at 20/02/2012 - 22:37

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Hi Carl, I love your'e Sig, that could just as well be about me
I'm Coming to the conclusion that of the Pentax Standard Zooms currently available this one will best fit my needs as I will aquire Lt'ds for any lowlight shooting I will do. So the bulkier F2.8 Zoom would be kinda redundant to me at least...
I've Got to stop chasing the greatest of everything, anyway and when it's good enough it'll do...

Comment by jules posted on Ok Ok I know! 17-70 Vs 16-50 at 20/02/2012 - 21:24

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Right that'll do me! Thanks Mike and Matt and all! I'lll keep the 17-70 not least because if I buy the 16-50 I'll have to let either the 12-24/Siggy 8-16 or the 60-250 drop from my plans and that would never do, I just need to work on Mike P a bit to get that Lens from his vice like grip!

Comment by jules posted on Ok Ok I know! 17-70 Vs 16-50 at 20/02/2012 - 17:25

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Mike-P wrote:
Nice to see you haven't changed much in the 6 months you have been away Jules

So which cameras did you buy in that time?

So far I have seen a 7D, D7000, A77, A850
Is it only six months? I've changed a lot Mike, had to, had some knocks that, well are not for a place like this but I hope I'll eventually come out the other end better for it.

Yes all those, you can Add a 5DMKII and a Nikon D7000 to that little lot!
Pretty much Bankcrupt me, all for the stupid Obsession that Gear became well hopefully no more. I've come back to the only Camera that I have actually enjoyed in the last few years and I'll just have to get used to the fact that others may get more bells and whistles but that don't always make em better...

But I'll take an updated k5 whenever that comes

Comment by jules posted on Ok Ok I know! 17-70 Vs 16-50 at 20/02/2012 - 15:13

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I hink the consensus would be that I just get over it! Anyway the Product Manager of Pentax Japan hinted at a replacement for the 16-50 coming up Or maybe the 17-70 or maybe something else...?
http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/exclusive-pentax-interview-cp-2012.html

P.S. I agree Matt, that Dandelion shot is Priceless!

Comment by jules posted on Ok Ok I know! 17-70 Vs 16-50 at 20/02/2012 - 14:12

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George Lazarette wrote:
I haven't had the kit lens, but I used to own the 16-50, and when I dropped it off the roof of my car (ouch!) I replaced it with a 17-70.

Frankly, although the 17-70 is a very good lens, it just isn't in the same league as the 16-50. As Matt says, the latter has that indefinable something that makes you say "Ah!". It's not quite on a par with the Ltds (and I own the three proper Ltds), but it's not too far away.

For those who place great stress on image quality, and like the extra stop, and the SDM, and the weather-sealing, then it's the lens to go for. If these things are of less importance than size and weight and more range at the top end, go for the 17-70.

One last thing I should say about the 17-70. It encourages you to try other lenses. With the 16-50, however, once it's on the camera you never want to take it off.

G
Thanks George, I think I'll investigate getting a few Lt'ds at some point Again but I want to get the Zooms right first as they'll get the most useage, I just can't see me warming too much to the 16-50 but then I've never tried it Might have to change that...

Comment by jules posted on Ok Ok I know! 17-70 Vs 16-50 at 20/02/2012 - 12:34

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Mike-P wrote:
Gwyn wrote:

It is the one lens I would hang on to if I had to sell everything else, and that includes my beloved Bigma and the 60-250*.
...
He He! I suspect I can't Prise Gwyns 60-250 away anymore than your's Mike

Comment by jules posted on Ok Ok I know! 17-70 Vs 16-50 at 20/02/2012 - 12:30

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Hmm, I must admit it works into my plan far better than the 16-50 F2.8, which due to it's cost would upset the Applecart somewhat!
12-24/17-70/60-250 All F4, A.S.A.P. Which will soak up every penny of my available funds, and when I get round to it and have some cash! Maybe two or three of the Ltd's again for low light etc, Probably 35 F2.8 and the 70 F2.4 Along with the old 15mm F4, well just because...
For some reason I never warmed to the 43 F1.9 and the 77 F1.8 that I owned previously and the 31mm just doesn't appeal at all...

Comment by jules posted on Ok Ok I know! 17-70 Vs 16-50 at 20/02/2012 - 10:02

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Yes done to death!
Right I ordered A 17-70 F4 SDM With my K5 it has arrived and I'm quite dissapointed with the Build, I seem to have missed in all my research the point about the Rotating Focus ring, it's really irksome to me. I am pepared to send it back for a 16-50mm F2.8 SDM but I'm wondering what I will gain (Apart form a stop! Before you Start Mike P!:wink. Problem: I like to travel lighter, I like SDM, so that rules out the 16-45, (Yes I know)I like the range of the 17-70, it seems to focus fine (I've read all the reports of bad focus over 50mm and this un doesn't seem to suffer). The 16-50 seems overpriced for what it is, I really don't like the handling of Sigma Standard zooms (17-50/24-70)Apart form the 8-16 wide which I loved with my Nion D7000.
Other 17-70 users, do you get used to it over time and does it stop being a deal at all (I know you've had a few of em Mike and don't like it:wink I have the opportunity to send it back or should I just get over myself???

Comment by jules posted on Ok Ok I know! 17-70 Vs 16-50 at 20/02/2012 - 09:33

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