Unfortunately this could be quite unreliable. Quite often people will say they want something, but when it comes to the crunch they will put it off.

And so the plot thickens! So the 25mm is nearly a 26mm, which in one way is almost a 28mm....goodness, who can we trust?

No, I wouldn't either. The system as we have it now has been in operation since the MZ series of DSLRs. K and M series lenses can be used, with restrictions, and the exposure indication may not be accurate. I think we can assume this is integral to the general design constraints, presumably without spending a lot of money on something very few people actually want. I say very few, but I mean that in the total world of users. Here we are out of proportion in this respect.

Already done i-Berg, but there has been no reply so far.

As things stand at the moment I would choose the K-5 over the K-r over the K-7 over the K-x. That however is me and each photographer might have different requirements. The K-r inched ahead of the K-7 when it gained its Li-ion battery.

The K-r design is very similar to the lines of Pentax DSLRs that included the *istDS, an excellent camera as well. I like this one wheel design, but not everyone does.

For me, subject to being able to afford it, the K-5 trumps the K-r on the grounds or weather resistance in particular, plus the use of a proper pentaprism.

The K-r I tried out was a terrific camera and I would thoroughly recommend it to anyone who doesn't want to run to the expense of the K-5. Or indeed who doesn't want the extra features.

Now the lens is sold I'll move this back to Lenses and reinstate the other bits of chat.

It loooks like a phone call then - they might do a deal.

You could start by phoning SRS and Park Cameras and others to see what they have. Or check out their websites first.

That's interesting. I wonder how many of those lenses are actually still available in Japan? A lot of lenses and cameras were wqithdrawn from sale in Europe because of legislation relating to dangerous materials such as Lead. Specifically the 645 and 67 disappeared because of this.

I mention it because the A series 50mm f1.2 was available (assembled in Thailand) in the far East, but not here. There are quite a few others listed on the Japanese site, although I haven't looked recently.