It's just that cars get bigger, people buy them, can't park them, spaces need to be bigger.

There's no logical real world solution, spaces can't be made bigger, that would reduce availability and with more cars than ever that wouldn't do...

My brain hurts, I think I need a beer.

I can quite believe that. So why do you put the blame on the car and not the space ? Most car parks I visit have been built long after 1970[/quote]It's not the car park but the drivers..

...how many times can we link with quotes from apreviuos thread?

I seI seem to recall that parking space width is based on the 'average' car..

..set in the mid 1970s that was the Moris Minor..

,,,and it's never been updated...

Almost..

..but not a Yorkshireman's wallet!

The wife says I'm tight, not true, she has all the money!

As they say, you can always tell a Yorkshireman..

..but he won't listen!

I used to be the 'go to' guy at a factory I worked in when the visiting reps locked themselves out of their Fords..

.. my Truimph Bonneville ignition key fitted the old 'one size fits all ford' door locks. Amazingley it never fitted the ignition though.

And when I had an Austin A35 it soon came to light that at a rally any owner could move any car if needed, different cars, different locks, same key!!

back in the early 1980s a 'mature student' pulled out infront of me and damn near killed me, I fly well but it hurts when you land.

His insurance company took 18 months to inspect my bike, as soon as thta was done I moved it to a private garage as the bike shop needed the room. The shop had been calling regularly to get the inspection done but the insurers couldn't be bothered.

The bike was a right-off so I agreed a price and retained the bike, they agreed to pay the storage, thinking it had been in my garage all the time.

It was nice to hear from my friends at the shop that they managed to get the £1700 storage cost paid in full.

And as a farwell the solicitor I used paid out myself and the shop, but kept the extortionate medical examination fee along with several (hundred!) others and did a flit to the US of A.

ah, those were the days...

Sorry Gwyn, I wasn't aiming at Landy owners, I had one myself 20 odd years ago. Great fun Green laning and as reliable as a chocolate fire guard.

It's the big BMW/Merc/Rangerover fashion cars I was poping at.

Just taken a trip out to do some 'essential' shopping..

..on the BMW, nice big panniers and the first time I've ridden her for two months.

How I've missed riding, I was never meant to be a car driver.

Second morning running that I've been out for a ride, the roads are realy quiet at 6:30 in the morning..



That's the new(ish) electric bike.

..as for Land rovers and the like, why do people buy them?

The furthest of road most 4x4s ever get is the supermarket car park!

Before they're allowed to buy one all prospective owners should have to prove they can drive/control/park the damn things. That would make the roads safer for everyone...

When I taught people to ride motorbikes, a long time ago in a previous life, the last look was always over the shoulder you were turning too.

It was called 'the life saver' for obvious reasons.

Nowadays it seems that nobody bothers, they just blame the victim for being in the wrong place/wearing dark clothing/ going too fast.

needless to say I still look, as do most motorcyclist of my age group, even when driving a car...

Sorry to hear you're now dogless Gwyn, when you loose an animal you've shared your life with for however long it leaves a hole.

It's three years since we lost our cat and I still miss him, he was and still is irreplaceable.