ChrisA

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Eagle12 wrote:
sharpening is always off in my camera.
Although you can set the sharpening amount to the mid point of the +/- range available in the camera's JPG settings, I'm not sure it follows that that is the same as actually switching sharpening off.

I don't know for a fact, but I'd guess that the only way to guarantee that the camera has done no sharpening at all is use the RAW file.

When I get a chance I'll shoot a few images in RAW+ and see if there's an obvious difference.

Comment by ChrisA posted on Raw and Jpeg at 19/10/2011 - 16:18

ChrisA
JohnX wrote:
ChrisA wrote:
You get the green hexagon to confirm where the camera thinks it's focused. Then you take the shot with the lens wide open, and see where it was actually in focus.
Sorry to be pedantic, but the green hexagon tells you you're in focus, not what you're focussed on. It's the focus points that do that, and for AF adjustment you should be on centre focus.
Quite right, thanks for picking me up on that. You get the green hexagon to confirm when the camera thinks it's focused, I meant. And yes, absolutely, centre spot all the way.

The green hexagon is no use for where you're focused, since it's completely out of the frame

Comment by ChrisA posted on How much focus adjustment? at 17/10/2011 - 23:01

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gtis wrote:
where did you get the chart from and how did you set it up
http://focustestchart.com/

Printed it out (just the page with the A4 chart on), stuck it on a piece of A4 card, put it on the floor.

Camera on a tripod, pointing at the chart. Ages and ages trying to get it lined up straight, possibly not yet successfully. Remote 3s release.

The idea is you point the camera at the bit in the middle where it says "focus here". You get the green hexagon to confirm where the camera thinks it's focused. Then you take the shot with the lens wide open, and see where it was actually in focus.

Comment by ChrisA posted on How much focus adjustment? at 17/10/2011 - 19:25

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DrOrloff wrote:
Father Ted takes the best Moon shots on this site.
No disrespect to FT, but I think you're being way too modest. Your one from yesterday was the best I've seen by far in well over four years here. It wasn't the highest magnification, but the detail and fineness of the lines made me literally gasp.

You seem to have removed it now, but it's precisely because it was so clearly in a different class that I misinterpreted your purpose in posting it.

Comment by ChrisA posted on Northumberland moon at 17/10/2011 - 18:18

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karma mechanic wrote:
What I meant was whether the lens axis was truly perpendicular to the chart. The plane of sharp focus is only a few mm out across the chart, which could be accounted for by the lens being a few mm off the correct axis. The idea of adding a little bit of error is to see what the effect is - maybe it will look perfect with the lens moved 5mm to the right and re-aimed for example. Or not...
Yes, that is what I understood from your suggestion. I'm trying it now, but my eyes are going a bit funny now that I've been squinting at the alignment and pointing the centre of the field at the right spot for so long

And the light's starting to go now, too, and I certainly don't want to confuse the issue by changing to tungsten! I'll have another go tomorrow, I think - watch this space!

Thanks for your suggestions.

Comment by ChrisA posted on How much focus adjustment? at 17/10/2011 - 17:48

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karma mechanic wrote:
I'm just thinking that the difference between sides is only a few mm, so it might be instructive to deliberately skew the alignment to see what happens. If it changes a lot then it suggests the alignment is very sensitive.
Mmmm. I must admit, I would have thought that any back- or front-focus would be in the same sense both sides, if the sensor itself is really perpendicular to the lens axis.

I'll try a very skewed one.

Comment by ChrisA posted on How much focus adjustment? at 17/10/2011 - 17:32

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karma mechanic wrote:
It looks to me like the K10D one is showing the same general effect though, albeit a little bit back-focussed compared to the K5 one.

That would implicate the lens - or the alignment of the chart

Edited to add - try moving the tripod a centimetre or so to the right, centre the image and shoot it again to see whether it looks the same.
Hmm. Maybe I misinterpreted it. I'll do what you say.

Comment by ChrisA posted on How much focus adjustment? at 17/10/2011 - 17:17

ChrisA
For comparison, here's the same lens on the K10D:

[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/chris5gd/Problems/IMGP3158-1.jpg[/IMG]

If there's a difference between left and right, it's clearly a lot less pronounced.

Comment by ChrisA posted on How much focus adjustment? at 17/10/2011 - 17:09

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karma mechanic wrote:
ChrisA wrote:

Notice anything funny?
Um, the sensor isn't absolutely square to the chart. Very hard to achieve without lots of fiddling about.
Well, I've been doing a lot of fiddling about And I thought I had it pretty close. There are a couple of bobbles in the paper where it didn't stick to the card I've mounted it on, but I don't think they affect it where it counts.

Do you think any lack of square accounts for the differnce between left and right?

Comment by ChrisA posted on How much focus adjustment? at 17/10/2011 - 16:51

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Thanks to Amin for his suggestion. On the K-5 it seems it goes up to +/- 10.

I've done it a bit more carefully now, and I'm quite troubled.

Here it is, pre-adjustment:

[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/chris5gd/Problems/IMGP0901.jpg[/IMG]

Here it is again, +10 dialled in and saved:

[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/chris5gd/Problems/IMGP0903.jpg[/IMG]

Both of these are the whole width of the frame.

Notice anything funny?

Comment by ChrisA posted on How much focus adjustment? at 17/10/2011 - 16:40

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