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Comment by andyt22 posted on K10D and older K and M series lenses at 10/07/2007 - 19:22
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Welcome, Andy
Thank you!Welcome, Andy
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No, it is not different. If you meter wide open and then calculate the shutter speed for your selected aperture, all will be well.
The issue with the K10D is that stop-down metering in manual mode with pre-A lenses is not accurate. I'd urge you to search the forum here; there have been several threads on this topic.
For instance:
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3867&highlight=k10d+stop+me...
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4222&highlight=k10d+stop+me...
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3887&highlight=k10d+stop+me...
HTH
It certainly has been a great help - there's an awful lot more to this than I'd imagined. I think I'll wait a while longer before going digital - the problem seems to affect the K10D rather than the older DSLR models and improved firmware may fix this in time. Or maybe a future model might have full mechanical aperture ring coupling reinstated. Frankly, I'm not desperate to go digital but the convenience of the format (lower costs, immunity to airport X-ray scanners, heat & humidity and instant images that can be taken again immediately if there's anything wrong, etc) is very appealing and saves a lot of time working with scanners.No, it is not different. If you meter wide open and then calculate the shutter speed for your selected aperture, all will be well.
The issue with the K10D is that stop-down metering in manual mode with pre-A lenses is not accurate. I'd urge you to search the forum here; there have been several threads on this topic.
For instance:
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3867&highlight=k10d+stop+me...
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4222&highlight=k10d+stop+me...
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3887&highlight=k10d+stop+me...
HTH
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Not sure about screens. People seem to have swapped them, but it takes a bit of screwdriver work and a steady hand, from what I gather.
A steady hand is needed on MX and LX bodies too so that shouldn't be a problem for me. I wonder if there's a DSLR equivalent to the SG20 screen (grid pattern, useful for getting the camera lined up with horizontal & vertical edges)?Not sure about screens. People seem to have swapped them, but it takes a bit of screwdriver work and a steady hand, from what I gather.
Thanks a lot for your help,
Andy
Comment by andyt22 posted on K10D and older K and M series lenses at 10/07/2007 - 19:08
I've been toying with the idea of getting a Pentax DSLR for a very long time as I have several film bodies and a large collection of K and M series lenses & accessories, and with some caveats, Pentax have stated that older lenses including even those with M42 screw mounts, are usable with the DSLRs.
But in the current issue of Pentax User Club magazine, there's a very good article on using older lenses with the K10D which has in fact put me off going for a DSLR, at least for the moment. Aperture ring settings on older lenses are communicated to the body by a simple mechanical tongue - is it true that the K10D lacks support for this?
What about the K100D - someone else in this forum posted a query in the troublsehooting section about using older lenses with this body and the answer was simply to enable aperture ring control in the menu.
My understanding was that the *ist D and *istDS both supported older lenses as long as you metered at full apetrure and then stopped down manually before taking the shot. Is the K10D different in this respect?
Finally, is it correct that none of the Pentax DSLRs have interchangeable focussing screens? (Few if any of the competitors' DSLRs have interchangeable screens either so this is nota fault of Pentax). If so, it looks like I will have to continue using my LX film bodies for some work.
Andy
But in the current issue of Pentax User Club magazine, there's a very good article on using older lenses with the K10D which has in fact put me off going for a DSLR, at least for the moment. Aperture ring settings on older lenses are communicated to the body by a simple mechanical tongue - is it true that the K10D lacks support for this?
What about the K100D - someone else in this forum posted a query in the troublsehooting section about using older lenses with this body and the answer was simply to enable aperture ring control in the menu.
My understanding was that the *ist D and *istDS both supported older lenses as long as you metered at full apetrure and then stopped down manually before taking the shot. Is the K10D different in this respect?
Finally, is it correct that none of the Pentax DSLRs have interchangeable focussing screens? (Few if any of the competitors' DSLRs have interchangeable screens either so this is nota fault of Pentax). If so, it looks like I will have to continue using my LX film bodies for some work.
Andy
Comment by andyt22 posted on K10D and older K and M series lenses at 10/07/2007 - 12:42


You meter in manual mode the same as with the other Pentax digitals. You select the aperture you want, then press the "green" button. The camera then stops down the lens for an instant and takes a meter reading. You then can focus and take the shot. This way you are always composing and focusing through a wide-open lens.
I moved from a DS to a K10D recently and found the K10 progressively over exposes as you use a smaller aperture. Switching to a DS focus screen solves this completely without affecting exposure of the modern FA or DA lenses.
Changing the focus screen is easy, and only requires a pair of tweezers, and a blower to ensure you remove any dust specs from the screen and screen area before you fit it.
Thanks for your help,
Andy