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mikew wrote:
Good luck Amin. I watched your lens saga unfold with some horror.

Mike
Not going to be a repeat of the lens saga Mike . That was a lesson learnt anyway

Thanks Mike

Comment by aminstar posted on GX20 brand new at 19/07/2009 - 19:43

aminstar
Anvh wrote:
He does explain it Amin, well at least a bit.

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But at this point in time, I have seen nothing but flat, boring, pedestrian, predictable, unassuming, dull and flat out knock me out with a VALIUM the size of a HOCKEY PUCK images.
The problem is that most studio shots all look the same so it's get boring.
The image looks flat because a soft box and umbrella are a form of floodlight, it fills the wrinkles and eliminates contrast so that's why it looks flat.

I'm no expert with this so please correct me if wrong.
When I started reading that sentence I must have switched off, no wonder Mike-P got so bored half way. My way of reading boring stuff is making long jumps and switching off on parts of the sentences .

But even it what you just mentioned was the case and he thinks that have seen nothing but flat, boring, pedestrian, predictable, unassuming, dull and flat out knock me out with a VALIUM the size of a HOCKEY PUCK images shouldn't he at least explain why the lighting does that? and what would be the alternative, at least for the mortals like me who don't have access to state of the art studios like he has? All I have is a shed, although air-conditioned I must admit and with a mini bar now nicely positioned nicely stocked with drinks and mars bars

Comment by aminstar posted on Why I HATE Umbrella Lighting... at 19/07/2009 - 19:18

aminstar
mikew wrote:
Fine if it all works, a recipe for ill feeling and problems if it doesn't. Just my take.

Mike
Agree with it Mike, hence for the sake of avoiding any ill feeling I had just left a small window opening and then made sure I clarified that wasn't going to take any more.
And apologies if I misinterpreted your comment in thinking that you might still be considering the initial offer. Just as you mentioned, better leave always everything clarified to avoid misunderstandings and ill feelings.

Comment by aminstar posted on GX20 brand new at 19/07/2009 - 19:13

aminstar
Dan,
the case has been made here for you , fully see it now, and yes, looking at it again I can see why that part of the fur is focused, its part of the shoulder becomes part of the focusing place

Comment by aminstar posted on Pet's at 19/07/2009 - 19:10

aminstar
beginner wrote:
Have you got the money from the customers yet Amin?.....and are you going to give up your day job to be a photograpic dealer?......

Good luck my friend!..............Ken
I don't have a day job Ken
I have a night job

How else do you think I spend time lurking around this forum?

Comment by aminstar posted on GX20 brand new at 19/07/2009 - 18:55

aminstar
Daniel Bridge wrote:
The lower jaw of the cat is out of focus, it's not movement blur. If Martin had stopped the lens down then depth of field would have been increased and there would have been more detail here, but then the shutter speed would have been longer, and detail in the background would have been more visible, which may have detracted from the shot.

If you look at the cat shot, below the fang and just above the tongue is a highlight on a tooth, that's rendered as a circular out of focus blob. If the jaw was blurred due to movement, this blob would have been oblong, rather than a circle.

The focus on the dog is so good at f/2.8 because the nose, eye and ear are all along the focus plane, ie. the same distance from the camera. The depth of field is still shallow (although better than the cat pic due to the greater focus distance), but it's not so noticable as the main features are all sharp.

I especially like the cat pic.

Dan
Dan

Well spotted , and let's lock ourselves here in a small amicable debate shall we? Gosh I can't believe I am locking horns here with an equivalent of a titan in photography compared to me, but hey, if I don't blurt out what I think then I won't learn or improve more

So here it goes:

I follow your thought process and I must admit that soon after you explained that it was out OOF rather than a blur first look satisfied me immediately. But then again started to think that if that jaw and tooth is OOF then how come the plane below it which is slightly further away from the spot on focus and the jaw position, where you can see the bit of black fur still somewhat at 2 o'clock position is still in focus.
The DOF wouldn't have jumped one plane leaving it out of focus and then getting the focusing back on a lower plane would it?
It would mean thatit has sandwiched one OOF plane between two focused ones.

Unless I am seeing something wrong again in which case I am sure your great experience and talent will elucidate me

Thanks

Amin

Comment by aminstar posted on Pet's at 19/07/2009 - 18:52

aminstar
Mike-P wrote:
aminstar wrote:


Gosh.. you are smart Mike . You got that spot on.

I'm not just a pretty face you know

Infact I'm not even that
Yes one look at your avtar says it all. I already had noticed that

Comment by aminstar posted on GX20 brand new at 19/07/2009 - 18:42

aminstar
Mike-P wrote:
mikew wrote:
As a matter of interest how does this work with the warranty as the camera is essentially second hand when it reaches the purchaser?

Mike
Amin says the receipt will be in his name so therefore I presume if there is any problem he can deal with it. (would also presume new owner will have to pay all postage costs).
Gosh.. you are smart Mike . You got that spot on.

mikew wrote:
As a matter of interest how does this work with the warranty as the camera is essentially second hand when it reaches the purchaser?

It's a very, very good price which I'm half hoping will last until I go to Italy.

Mike
Mike, from my side I am sorry to say I have already ordered and allocated the nummber of bodies for the people who approached me arlier. Not going to order anymore, at least not at the offered price. Please read my earlier post.

Comment by aminstar posted on GX20 brand new at 19/07/2009 - 18:32

aminstar
Mike-P wrote:
Gwyn wrote:
Sadly not everyone can afford a couple of good softboxes Ben, so umbrellas make a good starting point. Softboxes do give a nicer result no doubt but they cost so much money!

From how I read it (and it was only quickly because I get bored easily) he's not over impressed with soft boxes either.
yes Mike, you are right. I read it all and as I said even with my limited understanding of the english language that's the idea I was left with, that he is not overly impressed with soft boxes either.

But in the end I remained none the wiser as he didn't explain why.

And thanks for letting pass the joke , it must have been pretty hard, knowing how you can always pinpoint accurately moments to throw in an oportunistic joke

Comment by aminstar posted on Why I HATE Umbrella Lighting... at 19/07/2009 - 17:53

aminstar
thanks Martin, it does help to understand a bit better, and will try to implement that procedure to improve my captures thanks again for your time explaining

Comment by aminstar posted on Pet's at 19/07/2009 - 14:32

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