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Comment by aminstar posted on GX20 brand new at 19/07/2009 - 19:43
He does explain it Amin, well at least a bit.
But at this point in time, I have seen nothing but flat, boring, pedestrian, predictable, unassuming, dull and flat out knock me out with a VALIUM the size of a HOCKEY PUCK images.
The image looks flat because a soft box and umbrella are a form of floodlight, it fills the wrinkles and eliminates contrast so that's why it looks flat.
I'm no expert with this so please correct me if wrong.
But even it what you just mentioned was the case and he thinks that have seen nothing but flat, boring, pedestrian, predictable, unassuming, dull and flat out knock me out with a VALIUM the size of a HOCKEY PUCK images shouldn't he at least explain why the lighting does that? and what would be the alternative, at least for the mortals like me who don't have access to state of the art studios like he has? All I have is a shed, although air-conditioned I must admit and with a mini bar now nicely positioned nicely stocked with drinks and mars bars
Comment by aminstar posted on Why I HATE Umbrella Lighting... at 19/07/2009 - 19:18
Fine if it all works, a recipe for ill feeling and problems if it doesn't. Just my take.
Mike
And apologies if I misinterpreted your comment in thinking that you might still be considering the initial offer. Just as you mentioned, better leave always everything clarified to avoid misunderstandings and ill feelings.
Comment by aminstar posted on GX20 brand new at 19/07/2009 - 19:13
Have you got the money from the customers yet Amin?.....and are you going to give up your day job to be a photograpic dealer?......
Good luck my friend!..............Ken
I have a night job
How else do you think I spend time lurking around this forum?
Comment by aminstar posted on GX20 brand new at 19/07/2009 - 18:55
The lower jaw of the cat is out of focus, it's not movement blur. If Martin had stopped the lens down then depth of field would have been increased and there would have been more detail here, but then the shutter speed would have been longer, and detail in the background would have been more visible, which may have detracted from the shot.
If you look at the cat shot, below the fang and just above the tongue is a highlight on a tooth, that's rendered as a circular out of focus blob. If the jaw was blurred due to movement, this blob would have been oblong, rather than a circle.
The focus on the dog is so good at f/2.8 because the nose, eye and ear are all along the focus plane, ie. the same distance from the camera. The depth of field is still shallow (although better than the cat pic due to the greater focus distance), but it's not so noticable as the main features are all sharp.
I especially like the cat pic.
Dan
Well spotted , and let's lock ourselves here in a small amicable debate shall we? Gosh I can't believe I am locking horns here with an equivalent of a titan in photography compared to me, but hey, if I don't blurt out what I think then I won't learn or improve more
So here it goes:
I follow your thought process and I must admit that soon after you explained that it was out OOF rather than a blur first look satisfied me immediately. But then again started to think that if that jaw and tooth is OOF then how come the plane below it which is slightly further away from the spot on focus and the jaw position, where you can see the bit of black fur still somewhat at 2 o'clock position is still in focus.
The DOF wouldn't have jumped one plane leaving it out of focus and then getting the focusing back on a lower plane would it?
It would mean thatit has sandwiched one OOF plane between two focused ones.
Unless I am seeing something wrong again in which case I am sure your great experience and talent will elucidate me
Thanks
Amin
Gosh.. you are smart Mike . You got that spot on.
Infact I'm not even that
Comment by aminstar posted on GX20 brand new at 19/07/2009 - 18:42
As a matter of interest how does this work with the warranty as the camera is essentially second hand when it reaches the purchaser?
Mike
As a matter of interest how does this work with the warranty as the camera is essentially second hand when it reaches the purchaser?
It's a very, very good price which I'm half hoping will last until I go to Italy.
Mike
Comment by aminstar posted on GX20 brand new at 19/07/2009 - 18:32
Sadly not everyone can afford a couple of good softboxes Ben, so umbrellas make a good starting point. Softboxes do give a nicer result no doubt but they cost so much money!
But in the end I remained none the wiser as he didn't explain why.
And thanks for letting pass the joke , it must have been pretty hard, knowing how you can always pinpoint accurately moments to throw in an oportunistic joke
Comment by aminstar posted on Why I HATE Umbrella Lighting... at 19/07/2009 - 17:53


Good luck Amin. I watched your lens saga unfold with some horror.
Mike
Thanks Mike