You would have been better off selling the Grip separate

Someone looked at my photos once and thought I must be BLIND!

Beer can carrying isn't a sport I participate in

Very good Gary.... the lighting doesn't look too good
anyway. The 2nd shot looks very sharp.

I never thought of that a bucket would do!!

This is a true story:

A local brewery (Greenalls) used to have a dray horse for shows that liked to drink bitter. There was a famous local champion beer guzzler who challenged the horse to a drinking competition in aid of charity, so they arranged it and just as they were about to start the beer drinking champ. called out.... HOLD ON!!! the horse is drinking out of a BUCKET!!! Lets have a FAIR COMPETITION!!! I want a BUCKET AS WELL!!!!

I don't think it's physically possible for it to ever work
properly...... it's just a gimmick and most of the error that
you see is probably user error, due to the sensor not
being exactly parallel with what you are photographing,
although I have seen some on the US forum that were seriously out.

When I checked mine it was as near as possible (with this type
of gadget) level with two bars showing through the viewfinder,
but even that isn't very accurate I still use it like
that, but a lot of shots are better slightly off level anyway.

The automatic trim to level suffers from the same problems.
I doubt if it will be fixable by a firmware update. The whole
mechanism depends on how accurately the sensor has been fixed
in the camera.

Even checking it is a nightmare, if you photograph a spirit
at about 3 ft. it has to be exactly level and parallel to the
camera sensor.

You can never have enough 400mm lenses!

Bought some "Old Speckled Hen" which Sainsbury's had on offer
at £4 for 4x500ml cans. They have this newer method of tying
them together with the plastic that goes around the outside of
the can (whose idea was that?) It's very hard to separate the
can, much worse than other brands. I actually dropped one can
and the 1st time I came across that type of tie I tried cutting
them off with a Stanley knife and punctured a can squirting beer
all over the kitchen

The older plastic ties are much better

I agree about the Pentax-M 80-200mm superb build quality. It was
probably very expensive at the time. They brought out a v2 which
I haven't used, but it looked like an excuse to make it cheaper.

So the title of this thread has been spelt correctly.....
It wasn't meant to be "another pintless thread"

Cheers!
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