Zoom Lens + TC - which combination?

woodworm
Posted 04/10/2008 - 09:16 Link
Hi people

I recently posted on here asking about which zoom lens would be most suitable for a safari and after the advice and other research I'd pretty much decided that the Sigma 100-300mm f4 + 1.4xTC would be most suitable.

But I have been wondering if one of the recent 70-200mm f2.8 + 2xTC would be a better option (not sure about Tamron or Sigma yet). I can't imagine anyone has had both of these combinations, but are there any obvious advantages or drawbacks that I may be missing?

I believe (and may be wrong) that the 100-300mm + 1.4TC will be a 140-420mm f5.6 and the 70-200mm + 2xTC will become 140-400mm f5.6. These are very similar, but the 70-200mm f2.8 (without TC) may be more useful with low light, etc.

When on safari my aim is to not be changing lenses too often, so when in the jeep I will be using the TC, but when out walking I will remove the TC.

Thank you.
Tooks
Posted 04/10/2008 - 09:28 Link
If you go down the 70-200 route, be aware that there aren't any teleconverters yet that work satisfactorily with the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 HSMII.

The Kenko 1.5x (but not the 2x version) and Tamron 1.4x work up to a point, as they have 'SDM/HSM/Power Zoom' contacts in the body, but autofocus on C-AF is a bit hit and miss and my lens never seemed to settle on a focus point with the converter attached. S-AF was more successful however, but I think it still throws the results off, as with any converter really. Manual was ok with both those converters.

The Sigma APO converters don't work at all with the 70-200 HSMII, even in manual mode, although I keep reading that Sigma are bringing out a new Pentax version that is compatible although nobody knows when that will be.

My particular Sigma 70-200 HSMII wasn't sharp at f2.8, but excellent from f4 onwards, which kind of negates the advantages of the wider aperture. In my case, I would have had a 140-400mm f8, although as I say it's academic as no 2x converter works with the Sigma! It did weigh a lot less than the 100-300 f4 though!

So, the Tamron is your only option at the moment if you decide to go down this particular road.
Mannesty
Posted 04/10/2008 - 10:20 Link
The 100-300 already has the same 35mm equivelant field of view as a 150-450. Multiply that by the 1.4 that the T/C will provide and you have a massive 210-630mm. You'll have trouble keeping it still enough at the long end.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
woodworm
Posted 04/10/2008 - 10:35 Link
Hi, thanks for your replies.

Mannesty, I only plan to use the TC when I am able to use a monopod / tripod (for either lens).
mikenya
Posted 05/10/2008 - 08:12 Link
Which reserves will your safari be in ? If it's one where your driver/guide can go off road ,then you will be able to get very close to the wildlife.A tripod/monopod is not easy to use in the confines of a safari landrover especially with the engine running.Hope you have a great trip ,
Mike
woodworm
Posted 05/10/2008 - 10:54 Link
Hi Mikenya, we will be in South Luangwa / Lower Zambezi national park. I had a monopod recommended to me as the type of vehicle are low sided jeeps and it would be awkward to use a bean bag. We're not going until next year - but making my christmas list now!
pikipoki
Posted 10/10/2008 - 07:46 Link
From the tests that I have seen on the internet I woul recommend a 1.4, 1.5 or 1.7 TC at most.

The 2+ TC's just take too much on image quality, mostly sharpness.

Matej
woodworm
Posted 10/10/2008 - 09:37 Link
Hi pikipoki - welcome to the forum and thank you for the reply. My plan is still to go with the Sigma 100-300mm + 1.4TC (if required).
Mike-P
Posted 10/10/2008 - 14:34 Link
woodworm wrote:
Hi pikipoki - welcome to the forum and thank you for the reply. My plan is still to go with the Sigma 100-300mm + 1.4TC (if required).
Looking at the price of the 100-300mm f4 Sigma new I dont think it is going to be far off the DA* 60-250mm f4 is it?
I know you will lose 50mm on the top but will gain 40mm at the bottom plus you get weather sealing, sdm and from what I have seen of the test shots pretty good IQ.
woodworm
Posted 10/10/2008 - 15:15 Link
Mike-P wrote:
Looking at the price of the 100-300mm f4 Sigma new I dont think it is going to be far off the DA* 60-250mm f4 is it? I know you will lose 50mm on the top but will gain 40mm at the bottom plus you get weather sealing, sdm and from what I have seen of the test shots pretty good IQ.
I know this lens is 'imminent' - but I'm not convinced it will be available before my trip next June!

Anyway, I'm hoping that someone will upgrade to the Pentax and sell me their Sigma cheap!
Mike-P
Posted 10/10/2008 - 15:31 Link
Well SRS are taking orders for next month and I believe they are pretty on the ball when it comes to Pentax gear.

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