Zebra Spider


coker

Link Posted 15/05/2016 - 21:45
Salticus scenicus, captured by the conservatory window, this afternoon.




K5, 100mm D FA Macro, Tamron 1.4x converter.
Pentax AF080C ring flash.
Handheld, manual focus.

Mono conversion in Elements 11.

Any thoughts welcome,

Roger.
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LennyBloke

Link Posted 15/05/2016 - 22:13
Not sure how I feel bout this one

It's an excellent capture, and the use of the ringflash has given it a great pair of probing eyes but I'm not sure if the B&W conversion has helped. Interesting to see the opinions of others.

How do you feel about the original in colour? It's quite unusual for this type of subject to convert to mono
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swarf

Link Posted 15/05/2016 - 22:57
I think that your choice of treatment has given it a real 'other worldly' look. IMHO it doesn't work as a natural history shot, but as an image I think it's great.

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Daronl

Link Posted 15/05/2016 - 23:02
Same thoughts as Lenny; the ring reflection makes the eyes look artificial which I think then adds to the overall unatural feel that the BW brings to the image.

But it is still a very interesting and difficult subject to capture and get good dof and sharpness on, so it is still a very skillful well executed shot
Daronl

coker

Link Posted 22/05/2016 - 12:43
....& in colour!

Today, different individual.





Thanks for looking, again.

Roger.
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Fishbones

Link Posted 22/05/2016 - 12:52
Hi Roger, I personally really like both images, the second has amazing colours and your method of capture is technically brilliant. I love your first image and if high key portraits every became the fashion for spiders I think you have nailed it and become the Mr Bailey for arachnids
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McGregNi

Link Posted 22/05/2016 - 13:13
Very strange and interesting images! Without particularly 'liking' them (you know, as we might like a close up of a flower or a nice looking girls portrait) I appreciate the set-up skill and techniques in getting the captures .... The processing is effective also. The reflection in the last one is very spooky. I wonder if you could have reduced the flash exposure a little, as the white highlights look a bit washed out .....
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Darkmunk

Link Posted 24/05/2016 - 14:46
Odd comments. Very diplomatic
I think they're both very poor.
The ring light is the wrong thing for these lovely creatures. the reflection is distracting. It's all about the eyes and a large diffuser or sky is the only way to light them nicely.
The processing is all wrong. Notably burnt out highlights and drastic fall-off of tones to either white or black, with no mid tones.
B&W is not effective and the image is confusing, although it is a good, dramatic angle.
Sorry
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McGregNi

Link Posted 24/05/2016 - 17:42
Ahh, Critique of the critique ! That's something interesting Mark, a chance to analyse why things are said .... However the photographer here hasn't responded to any further comments, so perhaps he doesn't care? (but equally I also know that he may not have been able to check the forum for some time and might be intending to soon).

I try to be sure to balance my comments, so that means looking to the positives first, then observations and suggestions .... Here (as you also say) there's a highlight exposure issue, so probably a closer eye on the histogram and more control over the flash would help.

I am naturally biased towards positive feedback regarding peoples flash work, because quite frankly, there's far too little flash photography shown here, so I want to encourage it and promote it (there are plenty of people who ' like to work with natural light ... ) .
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coker

Link Posted 24/05/2016 - 19:07
Yes, he DOES care about what comments are posted!

I take on-board all comments &, yes, criticism, however it's presented. I'm absolutely neither thin-skinned nor precious about ANY of my images.
They are the product of a life-long hobby which I love & which brings me great joy, both in the taking &, nowadays, the processing of the images.
Pentaxuser has been very kind to me over the years I have been here & I (hope!) I've learned a lot.

"Mistakes" do still occur, however!

Mark seems to consider these two images fall into that category.
Which is fine!
I can see the faults.
I am not perfect.
My images are not perfect.
That's why I post them here!

I do not consider them to be very poor. But Mark does. That's fine. No problem. As they say!

Thank you ALL for comments you post in response to my snaps.


Rest assured, I will not be crying myself to sleep tonight.....


Best wishes,

Roger.
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davem

Link Posted 24/05/2016 - 20:44
well said Roger

McGregNi

Link Posted 24/05/2016 - 21:34
Ha! Yes, can't argue with that! And glad that you care as well
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Darkmunk

Link Posted 25/05/2016 - 10:49
He he.
Sorry, I should have started with, 'it was a good angle..'
Love these little creatures. It's always a challenge getting those tiny, almost invisible eyes looking gorgeous.
When you see a microscopic reflection of yourself in there, it's a real buzz! (I'm such a poser).
Anyway, I look forward to seeing some more
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coker

Link Posted 25/05/2016 - 16:59
Thanks, Mark.

Roger.
The more I look, the more there is to see!
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