Your Critique Please
Posted 22/10/2012 - 20:21
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inlaw skullduggery!!
Posted 22/10/2012 - 20:44
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Getting away with Murder (or how to).
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Posted 22/10/2012 - 20:57
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Enlightenment, justice & mortality.
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Posted 22/10/2012 - 22:23
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Well thanks for the comments and critiques. It's quite interesting how the perception varies from the intent.
My original idea was:
This was an exercise in perception. It seems nobody saw what I intended, so I shall think about that. Maybe the concept was too complex to even have a chance of deciphering it? Or maybe the execution of the idea was too open to alternatives?
My original idea was:
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This was an attempt to make an image that conveyed a meaning. The first two volumes of Encyclopaedia Britannica represent the limit of one person's knowledge in life, the skull represents the untimate fate that limits this knowledge and the gavel represents the finaility of the end
Our friend Janice translated the imnage as:This was an attempt to make an image that conveyed a meaning. The first two volumes of Encyclopaedia Britannica represent the limit of one person's knowledge in life, the skull represents the untimate fate that limits this knowledge and the gavel represents the finaility of the end
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A very pleasing composition John, however Iwould not have interpreted it in quite the way that you have - and that is the beauty and interest of photographs such as this. The encyclopaedia represents knowledge and the skull the casing for the organ that gains and stores that knowledge - 2 very different methods of storage - both dependent upon each other. I would not have seen the gavel as 'ultimate fate' but rather as 'bang - sold on knowledge or hammered home'
To answer the question about lighting. The still life is laid out on a large piece of black sateen and the lighting is from a large evenly lit window. Not too different to using a very large softbox. A second window acts as a fill light. I just love natural light.A very pleasing composition John, however Iwould not have interpreted it in quite the way that you have - and that is the beauty and interest of photographs such as this. The encyclopaedia represents knowledge and the skull the casing for the organ that gains and stores that knowledge - 2 very different methods of storage - both dependent upon each other. I would not have seen the gavel as 'ultimate fate' but rather as 'bang - sold on knowledge or hammered home'
This was an exercise in perception. It seems nobody saw what I intended, so I shall think about that. Maybe the concept was too complex to even have a chance of deciphering it? Or maybe the execution of the idea was too open to alternatives?
Best regards, John
Posted 22/10/2012 - 22:36
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This strongly suggests international law and genocide/crimes against humanity.
Posted 22/10/2012 - 22:42
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Ooops...didn't scroll to the next page!!
Posted 22/10/2012 - 23:08
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johnriley wrote:
Well thanks for the comments and critiques. It's quite interesting how the perception varies from the intent.
My original idea was:
This was an exercise in perception. It seems nobody saw what I intended, so I shall think about that. Maybe the concept was too complex to even have a chance of deciphering it? Or maybe the execution of the idea was too open to alternatives?
I could see from the highlights on the gavel and skull you used large windows... as I mentioned the lighting was technically perfect, but... can I ask you this...Well thanks for the comments and critiques. It's quite interesting how the perception varies from the intent.
My original idea was:
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This was an attempt to make an image that conveyed a meaning. The first two volumes of Encyclopaedia Britannica represent the limit of one person's knowledge in life, the skull represents the untimate fate that limits this knowledge and the gavel represents the finaility of the end
Our friend Janice translated the imnage as:This was an attempt to make an image that conveyed a meaning. The first two volumes of Encyclopaedia Britannica represent the limit of one person's knowledge in life, the skull represents the untimate fate that limits this knowledge and the gavel represents the finaility of the end
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A very pleasing composition John, however Iwould not have interpreted it in quite the way that you have - and that is the beauty and interest of photographs such as this. The encyclopaedia represents knowledge and the skull the casing for the organ that gains and stores that knowledge - 2 very different methods of storage - both dependent upon each other. I would not have seen the gavel as 'ultimate fate' but rather as 'bang - sold on knowledge or hammered home'
To answer the question about lighting. The still life is laid out on a large piece of black sateen and the lighting is from a large evenly lit window. Not too different to using a very large softbox. A second window acts as a fill light. I just love natural light.A very pleasing composition John, however Iwould not have interpreted it in quite the way that you have - and that is the beauty and interest of photographs such as this. The encyclopaedia represents knowledge and the skull the casing for the organ that gains and stores that knowledge - 2 very different methods of storage - both dependent upon each other. I would not have seen the gavel as 'ultimate fate' but rather as 'bang - sold on knowledge or hammered home'
This was an exercise in perception. It seems nobody saw what I intended, so I shall think about that. Maybe the concept was too complex to even have a chance of deciphering it? Or maybe the execution of the idea was too open to alternatives?
Would you try this shot again, same composition, same same props, but painting with light using a torch (flashlight here in canada) and some warmer tones? I am thinking you can convey some mood through your lighting and color balance that would add to the sense of foreboding one feels when ever contemplating the finality of our "end" if you get what I'm meaning?
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Posted 22/10/2012 - 23:40
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Thanks Don. Yes, I will revisit this.
Of course, part of the problem with a still life is that there are an infinite number of variables, so almost anything is possible. The art lies in being selective, depending upon what the required outcome is.
I suppose the viewer could be guided towards the desired interpretation by a suitable title. A title will give clues and direct, rather like some of the comments in this thread did. It seemed to me that once a line of thought had been generated, it made it more difficult to find an alternative interpretation.
Of course, part of the problem with a still life is that there are an infinite number of variables, so almost anything is possible. The art lies in being selective, depending upon what the required outcome is.
I suppose the viewer could be guided towards the desired interpretation by a suitable title. A title will give clues and direct, rather like some of the comments in this thread did. It seemed to me that once a line of thought had been generated, it made it more difficult to find an alternative interpretation.
Best regards, John
Posted 22/10/2012 - 23:47
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It's clearly a reference to the rather sad end that interesting and educated men (represented by the scull) are consigned to, when, after a lifetime of learning through the likes of Britannica, they end up dead. Then, their cherished belongings, reflecting a wide range of interests developed through that education, are put up for sale in an auction house (the gavel). Judges (and indeed sheriffs north of the border) don't use gavels, so there is no legal imagery -- in the same way that the lady with the scales of justice above the Old Bailey is not blindfolded.
It's well photographed, John, and I'd be interested in your interpretation. Doubtless not as pretentious as this one.
Al
It's well photographed, John, and I'd be interested in your interpretation. Doubtless not as pretentious as this one.
Al
Posted 22/10/2012 - 23:51
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I've already given it above Aero. As I created it, I wouldn't describe my thoughts as an interpretation, more a statement of intent.
Pretentious? Not really, art can be decoded and in fact is decoded in great detail by those who know. I don't claim to be an artist, but I am aware that there is more to the composition of the truly classic paintings than just a pretty picture.
It's probably a very big subject, but there's no reason why we can't start to think about such things as we have tried to do in this thread.
Pretentious? Not really, art can be decoded and in fact is decoded in great detail by those who know. I don't claim to be an artist, but I am aware that there is more to the composition of the truly classic paintings than just a pretty picture.
It's probably a very big subject, but there's no reason why we can't start to think about such things as we have tried to do in this thread.
Best regards, John
Posted 22/10/2012 - 23:59
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do you have any jaw fragments to add to the composition? something to suggest the damages to the skull came from the gavel? that'd be cool...
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Posted 23/10/2012 - 00:06
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Interesting exercise, John, although I think the Major's reading is more perceptive than the original idea: now there's a thought! You say this was an exercise in perception, but perhaps the creation of a photograph like this is more an exercise in communication.
Many photographers or artists resist naming a piece, and probably rightly so; however I think in constructing an image, it sometimes helps to have a title in mind, even if it remains a well guarded secret. Could yours have been; Knowledge in life is fated to nothingness in the finality of death? My own reading of your photograph is along the lines that; Ideas are temporal unless judged worthy of publication. (and yours are)!
On the photography itself, it is very close to perfect, (apart from the book titles being difficult to decipher). The real problem with the image, however, is its search for perfection. Dust, dog ears, and finger prints, the stuff of life, would add another layer of meaning.
Enjoyed the conundrum, thanks.
Many photographers or artists resist naming a piece, and probably rightly so; however I think in constructing an image, it sometimes helps to have a title in mind, even if it remains a well guarded secret. Could yours have been; Knowledge in life is fated to nothingness in the finality of death? My own reading of your photograph is along the lines that; Ideas are temporal unless judged worthy of publication. (and yours are)!
On the photography itself, it is very close to perfect, (apart from the book titles being difficult to decipher). The real problem with the image, however, is its search for perfection. Dust, dog ears, and finger prints, the stuff of life, would add another layer of meaning.
Enjoyed the conundrum, thanks.
Posted 23/10/2012 - 00:07
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Sadly no Don, the skull was a dental anatomical aid that was used to demonstrate X-Ray machines. There never was a jaw.
Best regards, John
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