wedding image B&W Conversion

pink
Posted 11/02/2010 - 17:58 Link
can any one guide me to improve the tonal range this image

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I'm crap at black and white Conversions

Thank you in advance

James
Malo1961
Posted 11/02/2010 - 18:15 Link
pink wrote:
can any one guide me to improve the tonal range this image

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I'm crap at black and white Conversions

Thank you in advance

James
Upload the colour version here, preferably 500k or more and I have a try for you.
You can also mail a larger file to me directly.(better option) Pm me for my e-mail address
Best regards,

Martin.


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Steveninwyoming
Posted 11/02/2010 - 18:23 Link
If you want to improve tonal range use Fuji Neopan SS, and the old film camera you have LOL. Just my opinion but the digital b&w can not compete with traditional film no matter what you do to it in photoshop.

Steven
Malo1961
Posted 11/02/2010 - 18:31 Link
Well.....The OP asked help for a picture made digital. So we have to deal with that, don't we? I don't recall a question about:what serves me the best for the highest tonal range in B & W? ...film or digital?

BTW....you will be surprised what some software can do to workable files.
And I don't mean HDR in this case.
Best regards,

Martin.


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pink
Posted 11/02/2010 - 21:10 Link
I consider my self very lucky Martin has done a really really good conversion for me, thank you for your help.

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really pleased with it a big thank you martin I'm going to spend the next week or two removing the drain pipe

James
Edited by pink: 11/02/2010 - 21:11
Malo1961
Posted 11/02/2010 - 21:24 Link
You're welcome James. Good luck with fine tuning the final outcome.
Best regards,

Martin.


Curious about my photography?? Just Follow the Light.
womble
Posted 11/02/2010 - 21:31 Link
Good photo pink, superb conversion Malo! It has really lifted that picture. As to the drainpipe... good luck! It will be worth doing but it would try my patience too much.

K.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
pink
Posted 11/02/2010 - 21:51 Link
the bloke on the right was the best man and I think he was a bit worse for were THIS is the only one of him looking forward.

Thank you for the refreshing comments.

James

AND again martin big thank you they all said when you where AWL that you was one of the best at B&W conversions
Malo1961
Posted 11/02/2010 - 22:15 Link
As long as they don't mention my plumbing or dismantling drain-pipes skills, I can live with that.
This what you had in mind? (quick and dirty, I'll admit.)

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edit: Bummer...I missed a piece of pipe, on her right shoulder near the window.
Best regards,

Martin.


Curious about my photography?? Just Follow the Light.
Edited by Malo1961: 11/02/2010 - 22:17
pink
Posted 11/02/2010 - 22:18 Link
martin that's f-ing fantastic

and I thought it would take me weeks

James
womble
Posted 11/02/2010 - 22:22 Link
He likes a challenge does our Martin...
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
Malo1961
Posted 11/02/2010 - 22:34 Link
womble wrote:
He likes a challenge does our Martin...
Shhhhhh...
It's more like testing Gimp, which regrettably is a bit less sophisticated on the cloning/healing department compared to PS. But the latter is no longer used by me any-more. So Gimp is the only alternative for me on the shifting pixel department.

Anyways....with a bit more patience and PS it is convincingly doable,
I think.
Best regards,

Martin.


Curious about my photography?? Just Follow the Light.
Edited by Malo1961: 11/02/2010 - 22:35
womble
Posted 11/02/2010 - 22:37 Link
I'll keep stum.
Kris Lockyear
It is an illusion that photos are made with the camera… they are made with the eye, heart and head. Henri Cartier-Bresson
Lots of film bodies, a couple of digital ones, too many lenses (mainly older glass) and a Horseman LE 5x4.
gartmore
Posted 12/02/2010 - 08:01 Link
Looking at the original, the problem really lies in the lighting - or lack of it. I use fill-in flash on every picture at a wedding, not much but enough to lift the shadows.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
pink
Posted 12/02/2010 - 09:03 Link
Ken thank you for the advice I normally use a fill in flash but the wind had just blown over my soft box and broke a flash and the receiver.

witch i may add my son should off been holding.I do have a back up flash (hammerhead cl45)

I now have a new assistant and a wider and heaver light stand that will not be so easy to blow over

one really good lesson was learned that you do forget a lot of technique when under pressure

Thank you ken for the advice
James

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