The non standard & DIY £50 lens thread
Posted 21/11/2010 - 23:45
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To start things rolling:
I'm constructing a homemade Tilt/shift setup which looks like it's going to cost under £10 with a choice of 2 lenses.
Materials M39 enlarger lens(es) - I got a 40mm & a 75mm for ~£3 each
m39 mounting plate (mine came free with one of the lenses)
MR2 steering gaiter (£1 e-bay) other similar parts should work fine
budget m42 mounting adapter (£2 e-bay china - still on the way )
Epoxy or similar (surely everyone's got something similar available already)
The steering gaiter had to be cut down drastically to allow it to squeeze enough for infinity focus - this leaves enough for a macro project or two...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/petrochemist/5195895195/" title="DIY tilt/shift 1 by Analyst 1, on Flickr">
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5195895195_c9134dc551_m.jpg" width="240" height="205" alt="DIY tilt/shift 1" />
http://www.flickr.com/photos/petrochemist/5195895195/photos/petrochemist/5195895...
The other pics in the flickr set should explain the set-up if further notes are needed.
Focusing by squeezing seems a bit hit or miss, so I'm planning on adding an optional external frame later, but the system seems to work.
It's generally best with the 40mm as the 75 needs to be pulled out slightly out focus. Once the bayonet mount is attached this should become easier.
One of the first attempts with the set-up (without the bayonet so technically free-lensing) is on my portfolio
https://www.pentaxuser.com/photo/freelensing-experiment-22625/large
others will probably follow...
Mike
I'm constructing a homemade Tilt/shift setup which looks like it's going to cost under £10 with a choice of 2 lenses.
Materials M39 enlarger lens(es) - I got a 40mm & a 75mm for ~£3 each
m39 mounting plate (mine came free with one of the lenses)
MR2 steering gaiter (£1 e-bay) other similar parts should work fine
budget m42 mounting adapter (£2 e-bay china - still on the way )
Epoxy or similar (surely everyone's got something similar available already)
The steering gaiter had to be cut down drastically to allow it to squeeze enough for infinity focus - this leaves enough for a macro project or two...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/petrochemist/5195895195/" title="DIY tilt/shift 1 by Analyst 1, on Flickr">
http://www.flickr.com/photos/petrochemist/5195895195/photos/petrochemist/5195895...
The other pics in the flickr set should explain the set-up if further notes are needed.
Focusing by squeezing seems a bit hit or miss, so I'm planning on adding an optional external frame later, but the system seems to work.
It's generally best with the 40mm as the 75 needs to be pulled out slightly out focus. Once the bayonet mount is attached this should become easier.
One of the first attempts with the set-up (without the bayonet so technically free-lensing) is on my portfolio
https://www.pentaxuser.com/photo/freelensing-experiment-22625/large
others will probably follow...
Mike
Mike
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Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.
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Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.
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Posted 22/11/2010 - 00:51
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Sorry the first link is incomplete & I'm too late to edit it
http://flic.kr/p/8V9jBV along with
http://flic.kr/p/8V9jBz
http://flic.kr/p/8V9jBR
http://flic.kr/p/8V9jBM
http://flic.kr/p/8V9jC8
should work (hopefully)
Mike
http://flic.kr/p/8V9jBV along with
http://flic.kr/p/8V9jBz
http://flic.kr/p/8V9jBR
http://flic.kr/p/8V9jBM
http://flic.kr/p/8V9jC8
should work (hopefully)
Mike
Mike
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Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.
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Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.
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Posted 22/11/2010 - 08:52
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Lunacy!... Complete and utter lunacy. - It'll never work!
No man is worth his salt, who has not been banned from at least one Forum, and two Flickr groups.
Mowog.
Mowog.
Posted 22/11/2010 - 09:12
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mowog wrote:
Lunacy!... Complete and utter lunacy. - It'll never work!
I know. I told Wilbur and I told Orville the very same thing.
Lunacy!... Complete and utter lunacy. - It'll never work!
Water can wear away a stone - but it can't cook lunch
X-5
istDS
K2000
P50.
Lenses Digital: 50-200, 18-55 KAF: 28-80.
Lenses KA & K: SMC-KA f2.0, SMC-K f1.4, SMC-K f1.7 Tokina KA 28-70 , SMC Pentax 70-210 F4, Sigma KA 75-300 , Hanimex 500mm Mirror, and the Tamron Adaptall-2 stuff.
and then there's all the M42 kit, and the accessories ...
X-5
istDS
K2000
P50.
Lenses Digital: 50-200, 18-55 KAF: 28-80.
Lenses KA & K: SMC-KA f2.0, SMC-K f1.4, SMC-K f1.7 Tokina KA 28-70 , SMC Pentax 70-210 F4, Sigma KA 75-300 , Hanimex 500mm Mirror, and the Tamron Adaptall-2 stuff.
and then there's all the M42 kit, and the accessories ...
Posted 22/11/2010 - 09:29
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But seriously folks ...
It's obvious why a normal prime lens wil not work, but what about a reversed prime?
I know that I am missing something (no comments please) but it was considered quite usual (way, way, back) to use any M39 fit lens (think Leica or Russian) as an enlarger lens - if that was the only one to hand.
Surely, what petrochemist needs to really take this further is a lens designed for a bigger mount-to-film-plane distance, so that a better adjustment method can be produced.
Somewhere in my workshop is half an old Gnome enlarger (with a mount) and a bellows. I gave up on getting it working after making Fresnel condensers, but I have always had vague ideas of building a monorail camera. A bit of work with a lathe and M42 or K mounts should be quite easy. I think this is an inspirational project.
Geoff
It's obvious why a normal prime lens wil not work, but what about a reversed prime?
I know that I am missing something (no comments please) but it was considered quite usual (way, way, back) to use any M39 fit lens (think Leica or Russian) as an enlarger lens - if that was the only one to hand.
Surely, what petrochemist needs to really take this further is a lens designed for a bigger mount-to-film-plane distance, so that a better adjustment method can be produced.
Somewhere in my workshop is half an old Gnome enlarger (with a mount) and a bellows. I gave up on getting it working after making Fresnel condensers, but I have always had vague ideas of building a monorail camera. A bit of work with a lathe and M42 or K mounts should be quite easy. I think this is an inspirational project.
Geoff
Water can wear away a stone - but it can't cook lunch
X-5
istDS
K2000
P50.
Lenses Digital: 50-200, 18-55 KAF: 28-80.
Lenses KA & K: SMC-KA f2.0, SMC-K f1.4, SMC-K f1.7 Tokina KA 28-70 , SMC Pentax 70-210 F4, Sigma KA 75-300 , Hanimex 500mm Mirror, and the Tamron Adaptall-2 stuff.
and then there's all the M42 kit, and the accessories ...
X-5
istDS
K2000
P50.
Lenses Digital: 50-200, 18-55 KAF: 28-80.
Lenses KA & K: SMC-KA f2.0, SMC-K f1.4, SMC-K f1.7 Tokina KA 28-70 , SMC Pentax 70-210 F4, Sigma KA 75-300 , Hanimex 500mm Mirror, and the Tamron Adaptall-2 stuff.
and then there's all the M42 kit, and the accessories ...
Posted 22/11/2010 - 09:55
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Thanks Geoff
To date I've missed out on all the medium format lenses I've gone for.
I intwend to make a mouint for normal lenses too, they will work but only for close focus stuff - I dabble in Macro, and (with a lot of luck) I should be able to get an incresed effective DOF by tilting.
A reversed prime would I believe be even more for macro work than a standard one.
Some of my (T2) mirror lenses might work anyway, a full set of extension tubes seems to have no effect on the close focus, and they focus beyond infinity. If I change the T2 adapter it should be relatively simple (T2 has a registration distance of 55mm, so I've got nearly 1cm spare) ... Something else to play with
To date I've missed out on all the medium format lenses I've gone for.
I intwend to make a mouint for normal lenses too, they will work but only for close focus stuff - I dabble in Macro, and (with a lot of luck) I should be able to get an incresed effective DOF by tilting.
A reversed prime would I believe be even more for macro work than a standard one.
Some of my (T2) mirror lenses might work anyway, a full set of extension tubes seems to have no effect on the close focus, and they focus beyond infinity. If I change the T2 adapter it should be relatively simple (T2 has a registration distance of 55mm, so I've got nearly 1cm spare) ... Something else to play with
Mike
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Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.
.[size=11:].Flickr• WPF• Panoramio
.
Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.
.[size=11:].Flickr• WPF• Panoramio
Posted 22/11/2010 - 15:34
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I love this kind of thing.
Check this out if you haven't' already ...
http://boingboing.net/2010/09/20/century-old-lens-on.html
Check this out if you haven't' already ...
http://boingboing.net/2010/09/20/century-old-lens-on.html
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Posted 22/11/2010 - 16:03
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Smeggypants wrote:
I love this kind of thing.
Check this out if you haven't' already ...
http://boingboing.net/2010/09/20/century-old-lens-on.html
Our very own Hefty can beat that, with a brilliant review of a 120 year old lens on his K10D.
I love this kind of thing.
Check this out if you haven't' already ...
http://boingboing.net/2010/09/20/century-old-lens-on.html
Tim
AF - Pentax K5, Sigma 10-20/4-5.6, Tamron 17-50/2.8, Sigma 30/1.4, Sigma 70-200/2.8, Tamron 70-300/4-5.6
MF - Vivitar CF 28/2.8, Tamron AD2 90/2.5, MTO 1000/11
Stuff - Metz 58 AF1, Cactus v4, Nikon SB24, Raynox 150, Sigma 1.4x TC, Sigma 2x TC, Kenko 2x macro TC, Redsnapper 283 tripod, iMac 27”, Macbook Pro 17”, iPad, iPhone 3G
Flickr • Fluidr • PPG • Street • Portfolio site
Feel free to edit any of my posted photos! If I post a photo for critique, I want brutal honesty. If you don't like it, please say so and tell me why!
AF - Pentax K5, Sigma 10-20/4-5.6, Tamron 17-50/2.8, Sigma 30/1.4, Sigma 70-200/2.8, Tamron 70-300/4-5.6
MF - Vivitar CF 28/2.8, Tamron AD2 90/2.5, MTO 1000/11
Stuff - Metz 58 AF1, Cactus v4, Nikon SB24, Raynox 150, Sigma 1.4x TC, Sigma 2x TC, Kenko 2x macro TC, Redsnapper 283 tripod, iMac 27”, Macbook Pro 17”, iPad, iPhone 3G
Flickr • Fluidr • PPG • Street • Portfolio site
Feel free to edit any of my posted photos! If I post a photo for critique, I want brutal honesty. If you don't like it, please say so and tell me why!
Posted 22/11/2010 - 22:46
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thoughton wrote:
Nice!!!!
Smeggypants wrote:
I love this kind of thing.
Check this out if you haven't' already ...
http://boingboing.net/2010/09/20/century-old-lens-on.html
Our very own Hefty can beat that, with a brilliant review of a 120 year old lens on his K10D. I love this kind of thing.
Check this out if you haven't' already ...
http://boingboing.net/2010/09/20/century-old-lens-on.html
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Posted 23/11/2010 - 18:53
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Did I hear my name mentioned..?
If you're after a set of tilt/shift bellows that could be adapted to purpose then I'm selling something on eBay at the mo that could do the trick...
(Shameless plugs? Me?)
If you're after a set of tilt/shift bellows that could be adapted to purpose then I'm selling something on eBay at the mo that could do the trick...
(Shameless plugs? Me?)
Joining the Q
Posted 24/11/2010 - 11:31
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hefty1 wrote:
Did I hear my name mentioned..?
If you're after a set of tilt/shift bellows that could be adapted to purpose then that could do the trick...
(Shameless plugs? Me?)
Indeed your name was mentioned due to an excellent review.Did I hear my name mentioned..?
If you're after a set of tilt/shift bellows that could be adapted to purpose then that could do the trick...
(Shameless plugs? Me?)
The bellows camera looks like a nice bit of kit, but it's price is well outside the realm for this thread (£50 limit), so yes quite shameless.
Mike
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Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.
.[size=11:].Flickr• WPF• Panoramio
.
Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.
.[size=11:].Flickr• WPF• Panoramio
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- I've upped the price somewhat to allow for adapters, but If it's interesting enough we'll stretch the limit.
I'm happy to see other (non lens) budget solutions as long s we don't stretch too far from the allotted section of the forum.
Mike
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Pentax:K5ii, K7, K100D, DA18-55, DA10-17, DA55-300, DA50-200, F100-300, F50, DA35 AL, 4* M50, 2* M135, Helicoid extension, Tak 300 f4 (& 6 film bodies)
3rd Party: Bigmos (Sigma 150-500mm OS HSM),2* 28mm, 100mm macro, 28-200 zoom, 35-80 zoom, 80-200 zoom, 80-210 zoom, 300mm M42, 600 mirror, 1000-4000 scope, 50mm M42, enlarger lenses, Sony & micro 4/3 cameras with various PK mounts, Zenit E...
Far to many tele-converters, adapters, project parts & extension tubes etc.
.[size=11:].Flickr• WPF• Panoramio