Ten ICMs - Trees
Posted 06/02/2015 - 16:34
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walkeja wrote:
I must be missing something, to me they are all out of focus, therefore a load of rubbish. I'm not saying the originals are rubbish, but this software has ruined what looks like what were good originals. No offence meant.
ICM is short for 'intentional camera movement', there's no special software involved. The camera is deliberately moved during exposure to create an abstract or impressionistic effect (as in the style of Impressionist painters).
I must be missing something, to me they are all out of focus, therefore a load of rubbish. I'm not saying the originals are rubbish, but this software has ruined what looks like what were good originals. No offence meant.
Posted 06/02/2015 - 19:20
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Thanks all for thoughts, comments and suggestions thus far...
John (Walkeja) and Andy (Andymat): apologies for not having explained this properly up front. As Russ has expertly summarised above, ICM is short for "Intentional Camera Movement", the deliberate movement of the camera during exposure, specifically for abstract/impressionistic effect. As a technique, it's been around for a while. I happen to like it because it can often give you a glimpse of something that might not have been immediately obvious at the time... a feeling, perhaps, or an impression... It's not everybody's cup of tea, so absolutely no offence taken here if it doesn't happen to be yours - appreciate your honesty.
Just to clarify, I don't do anything with software etc after the event (apart from adjust exposure, contrast etc), it either happens or doesn't at the time. Exposure length tends to vary from around half a sec to 8 secs or so - but usually around the 2-3 sec mark - whatever seems to work best at the time. Hand held tends to work best for me, although occasionally I do use a tripod.
Adrian: Agreed re bright bits of sky. I try and avoid them if possible... Shooting uphill/downhill/on slopes often works well... dusk/afterglow is good, as is heavy cloud, and rain... occasionally I compose with them in shot, sometimes if I have no choice (no 6) and sometimes if I think it helps composition (no 8 ) .
John, Russ, Andy, Karlo, Steve, Phil, Bjorn, Lenny, Barrie, Gary, David: Thanks for sharing thoughts and comments on which ones do/don't work for you... always useful... Lenny, I am looking at giving some of these an airing in May, nothing too exciting, just somewhere local...
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Bill
John (Walkeja) and Andy (Andymat): apologies for not having explained this properly up front. As Russ has expertly summarised above, ICM is short for "Intentional Camera Movement", the deliberate movement of the camera during exposure, specifically for abstract/impressionistic effect. As a technique, it's been around for a while. I happen to like it because it can often give you a glimpse of something that might not have been immediately obvious at the time... a feeling, perhaps, or an impression... It's not everybody's cup of tea, so absolutely no offence taken here if it doesn't happen to be yours - appreciate your honesty.
Just to clarify, I don't do anything with software etc after the event (apart from adjust exposure, contrast etc), it either happens or doesn't at the time. Exposure length tends to vary from around half a sec to 8 secs or so - but usually around the 2-3 sec mark - whatever seems to work best at the time. Hand held tends to work best for me, although occasionally I do use a tripod.
Adrian: Agreed re bright bits of sky. I try and avoid them if possible... Shooting uphill/downhill/on slopes often works well... dusk/afterglow is good, as is heavy cloud, and rain... occasionally I compose with them in shot, sometimes if I have no choice (no 6) and sometimes if I think it helps composition (no 8 ) .
John, Russ, Andy, Karlo, Steve, Phil, Bjorn, Lenny, Barrie, Gary, David: Thanks for sharing thoughts and comments on which ones do/don't work for you... always useful... Lenny, I am looking at giving some of these an airing in May, nothing too exciting, just somewhere local...
Best
Bill
Posted 06/02/2015 - 22:55
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Thanks Bill for sharing some background to your techniques - it all helps with the learning process. And I doubt that I will ever stop learning - or even asking questions!!
The deeper you look into something, like photography, the more there is to learn, and try and experiment with. It's all very exciting and an inspiration to see your collection of images. And come to think of it, once you have a camera and a lens, one of the few techniques in photography that doesn't cost more money!
Cheers
The deeper you look into something, like photography, the more there is to learn, and try and experiment with. It's all very exciting and an inspiration to see your collection of images. And come to think of it, once you have a camera and a lens, one of the few techniques in photography that doesn't cost more money!
Cheers
Posted 07/02/2015 - 10:37
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K10D wrote:
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Read the rest of what I said.
walkeja wrote:
a load of rubbish. No offence meant.
Maybe a re-think on wording may just enlighten members on your actual thoughts/feelings then.a load of rubbish. No offence meant.
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Posted 07/02/2015 - 10:47
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RussV wrote:
Thanks for showing them, but I think this is a effect I don't like.walkeja wrote:
I must be missing something, to me they are all out of focus, therefore a load of rubbish. I'm not saying the originals are rubbish, but this software has ruined what looks like what were good originals. No offence meant.
ICM is short for 'intentional camera movement', there's no special software involved. The camera is deliberately moved during exposure to create an abstract or impressionistic effect (as in the style of Impressionist painters).I must be missing something, to me they are all out of focus, therefore a load of rubbish. I'm not saying the originals are rubbish, but this software has ruined what looks like what were good originals. No offence meant.
#10 does almost work for me though.
Posted 07/02/2015 - 10:56
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Well I really like most of them, especially 1, 4 7, 9 and 10. I really like the abstractness of them, and would certainly hang a couple of them on my wall.
It is an interesting technique and one which is hard to do well I suspect, without the results just looking like duff photos. I have plenty of those, but none were ICMs .
I shall have to give it a try one of these days.
It is an interesting technique and one which is hard to do well I suspect, without the results just looking like duff photos. I have plenty of those, but none were ICMs .
I shall have to give it a try one of these days.
Posted 07/02/2015 - 12:52
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Bill
Thanks for sharing a bit about your technique - that will certainly help me in my future attempts!
Phil
Thanks for sharing a bit about your technique - that will certainly help me in my future attempts!
Phil
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Posted 10/02/2015 - 10:20
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Thanks all... good debate... will upload some icm landscape shots shortly...
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