Sun at Southwold

tomh1982
Posted 16/12/2013 - 21:17 Link
Had a trip down to Southwold on Saturday to get some shots of the beach huts. unfortunately they had been damaged by the recent storms so I decided to head down to the pier & get a few shots there.

Both taken on a k5 & Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6

1. 1.6 sec at f/8, iso 80
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Beach Combing by tomh198218, on Flickr

2. 0.5 sec at f/8, iso 80
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Southwold Pier by tomh198218, on Flickr

Cheers T
Edited by tomh1982: 16/12/2013 - 21:42
antzutd
Posted 16/12/2013 - 22:14 Link
beautiful! the water flows so smooth and creamy! love the shot!
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McGregNi
Posted 17/12/2013 - 18:27 Link
Yes, beautiful Nicely composed and the elements are well organised. I think the yellow glow on that bit of seeweed stuff should be toned down a bit - it looks like its on fire! The yellow tones on the white buildings in the first one looks a bit too strong to me, maybe you could restore some white there?
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Posted 17/12/2013 - 19:43 Link
id agree with the seaweed comment - cracking image!
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tomh1982
Posted 17/12/2013 - 21:14 Link
Thanks all for the comments!

The seaweed on fire is actually orange fishing netting so may have a problem there lol :-s

Cheers T
McGregNi
Posted 17/12/2013 - 21:26 Link
Some simple desatuaration and reducing luminance will do the trick
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Russ
Posted 18/12/2013 - 08:54 Link
Very nice indeed. Lovely smooth water and that pier is just a great feature. Like the fish netting as the foreground interest with the smooth water around it.
Smeggypants
Posted 18/12/2013 - 23:13 Link
McGregNi wrote:
Yes, beautiful Nicely composed and the elements are well organised. I think the yellow glow on that bit of seeweed stuff should be toned down a bit - it looks like its on fire! The yellow tones on the white buildings in the first one looks a bit too strong to me, maybe you could restore some white there?
What and ruin the beautiful glow of the sunlight at that time of day?



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McGregNi
Posted 19/12/2013 - 15:55 Link
I may be helpful to think of it in more detail, so I've taken a closer look - hopefully any further discussion can be useful as there's plenty of images where these issues apply. As usual I'll lay out my thoughts directly as a start point

My own view on it is that the yellow on the white buildings is exaggerated - not caused by the sunlight, but by an overly warm artificially set colour temperature value. This is evidenced by the bleed off of yellow into the lower horizon, but with the cast continuing to the far distance which is actually very high altitude.

Interesingly in this lower sky area, where the exposure surges up towards the whitepoint, we see the same increase in yellow cast as we do on the brightest parts of the white buildings - you would expect the opposite as brightness shoots up towards pure white. Looking at the line of buildings on the pier, this pattern is repeated - it is only the brightest highlights that take on the yellow, with patches of building retaining white around that.

The predominant colour cast in the morning is blue. Warmer toned items near the ground would be saturated, true, but that's mainly caused by the low angle of light and the resulting depth of contrast across textures - not the actual colour temperature of the sunlight. It would boost any bright colour really.

It is probably the 'natural' saturation of the objects on the ground, but combined with an 'unnatural' too warm colour temperature setting, that has led to the very yellow seeweed and some of the stones and whites on the buildings.

Actually, on the beach itself, I agree that the tones are attractive (apart from the seeweed that I mentioned before). So my own suggestion would be to select off the pier and sky and cool that all down, getting nice whites and blues back, then work on the ground separately with less cooling, keeping all the nice natural saturation there.
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Edited by McGregNi: 19/12/2013 - 15:57
anniem
Posted 19/12/2013 - 18:27 Link
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McGregNi wrote:
I may be helpful to think of it in more detail, so I've taken a closer look - hopefully any further discussion can be useful as there's plenty of images where these issues apply. As usual I'll lay out my thoughts directly as a start point

My own view on it is that the yellow on the white buildings is exaggerated - not caused by the sunlight, but by an overly warm artificially set colour temperature value. This is evidenced by the bleed off of yellow into the lower horizon, but with the cast continuing to the far distance which is actually very high altitude.

Interesingly in this lower sky area, where the exposure surges up towards the whitepoint, we see the same increase in yellow cast as we do on the brightest parts of the white buildings - you would expect the opposite as brightness shoots up towards pure white. Looking at the line of buildings on the pier, this pattern is repeated - it is only the brightest highlights that take on the yellow, with patches of building retaining white around that.

The predominant colour cast in the morning is blue. Warmer toned items near the ground would be saturated, true, but that's mainly caused by the low angle of light and the resulting depth of contrast across textures - not the actual colour temperature of the sunlight. It would boost any bright colour really.

It is probably the 'natural' saturation of the objects on the ground, but combined with an 'unnatural' too warm colour temperature setting, that has led to the very yellow seeweed and some of the stones and whites on the buildings.

Actually, on the beach itself, I agree that the tones are attractive (apart from the seeweed that I mentioned before). So my own suggestion would be to select off the pier and sky and cool that all down, getting nice whites and blues back, then work on the ground separately with less cooling, keeping all the nice natural saturation there.
McGregNi
Posted 19/12/2013 - 18:35 Link
Its not a great valid example - surely here we might benefit from a slight warming in fact?
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RalphHardwick
Posted 19/12/2013 - 20:35 Link
It might help to know that the main building on the far left is not actually white. It is, in fact, a sort of cream colour

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tomh1982
Posted 19/12/2013 - 22:31 Link
Thanks for the comments guys

Yes as Ralph said the building is cream in colour.
Blythman
Posted 19/12/2013 - 22:40 Link
RalphHardwick wrote:
It might help to know that the main building on the far left is not actually white. It is, in fact, a sort of cream colour

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RalphHardwick
Posted 19/12/2013 - 22:45 Link
Blythman wrote:
RalphHardwick wrote:
It might help to know that the main building on the far left is not actually white. It is, in fact, a sort of cream colour

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I'm sorry

I should realise that we shouldn't let realism get in the way of our PP

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