Stubborn dust on k10D, any solutions?
Posted 31/05/2007 - 14:28
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I've just received my K10D and an Arctic Butterfly SL700. I thought that would be the best combination for dry cleaning. As for wet cleaning, the tin oxide sensor on the K10D needs a special solution mix because of the materials used and I can't find any in the UK (Eclipse E2, has to be the E2 solution, not the standard one which can corrode the sensor).
I'm hoping I don't have to run a cleaning cycle with my SL700 any time soon as it is new.
I'm hoping I don't have to run a cleaning cycle with my SL700 any time soon as it is new.
Posted 31/05/2007 - 14:40
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I think SRS Microsystems have the pukkah Pentax cleaning kit...
http://www.mattmatic.co.uk
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Posted 31/05/2007 - 17:14
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I use an Arctic butterfly on my Ds and am very happy with it.
Posted 03/06/2007 - 12:18
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I've just received my K10D and an Arctic Butterfly SL700. I thought that would be the best combination for dry cleaning. As for wet cleaning, the tin oxide sensor on the K10D needs a special solution mix because of the materials used and I can't find any in the UK (Eclipse E2, has to be the E2 solution, not the standard one which can corrode the sensor).
I'm hoping I don't have to run a cleaning cycle with my SL700 any time soon as it is new.
Hi Tyr,I've just received my K10D and an Arctic Butterfly SL700. I thought that would be the best combination for dry cleaning. As for wet cleaning, the tin oxide sensor on the K10D needs a special solution mix because of the materials used and I can't find any in the UK (Eclipse E2, has to be the E2 solution, not the standard one which can corrode the sensor).
I'm hoping I don't have to run a cleaning cycle with my SL700 any time soon as it is new.
they list it at Bristol Cameras for £22.. I don't know if it's in stock though.
http://www.bristolcameras.co.uk/page785.htm
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Just Digital SLR Cleaning Kit - Type 2
Kit contains 5 sensor swabs, 5cc bottle of Eclipse cleaner, 10 FlexiSwabs and 10 PecPad wipes. Type 2 suitable for Canon EOS-400D, 30D, Nikon D50, D80, Pentax K10D and Sony A100.
28th (ish) item down..
Just Digital SLR Cleaning Kit - Type 2
Kit contains 5 sensor swabs, 5cc bottle of Eclipse cleaner, 10 FlexiSwabs and 10 PecPad wipes. Type 2 suitable for Canon EOS-400D, 30D, Nikon D50, D80, Pentax K10D and Sony A100.
Liam
"Make your hands respond to what your mind demands." Jesse James
Best wide-angle lens? Two steps backward. Look for the 'ah-ha'. Ernst Haas
"Make your hands respond to what your mind demands." Jesse James
Best wide-angle lens? Two steps backward. Look for the 'ah-ha'. Ernst Haas
Posted 03/06/2007 - 13:06
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. As for wet cleaning, the tin oxide sensor on the K10D needs a special solution mix because of the materials used and I can't find any in the UK (Eclipse E2, has to be the E2 solution, not the standard one which can corrode the sensor).
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This is indeed most valuable information. From whence did it come? . As for wet cleaning, the tin oxide sensor on the K10D needs a special solution mix because of the materials used and I can't find any in the UK (Eclipse E2, has to be the E2 solution, not the standard one which can corrode the sensor).
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Does this really mean that the vast array of sensor (wet) cleaning kits around are unuseable on the K10D? My sensor cleaning kit carries no such warning and so I would have used it without hesitation had the need arisen.
Keep up the good work
Graham
I'll think of something someday.
Graham
I'll think of something someday.
Posted 03/06/2007 - 13:39
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Hi Graham,
I've been looking around at the various cleaning products this morning. I haven't got a K10, so I'd not needed to know, but it does state on most? sites that for all tin oxide sensors, you need to use the E2 fluid..
here's one example, although they don't mention the K10 specifically (and another UK stockist also)
http://www.cameraclean.co.uk/acatalog/Photographic_Solutions_Sensor_Cleaning_Too...
Hi Matt,
regarding the Pentax cleaning kit, I've just ordered one from SRS, so I'll let everyone know what it's like in a few days.
Here's a bablefish translation of this page on it..
Cheers
Liam
I've been looking around at the various cleaning products this morning. I haven't got a K10, so I'd not needed to know, but it does state on most? sites that for all tin oxide sensors, you need to use the E2 fluid..
here's one example, although they don't mention the K10 specifically (and another UK stockist also)
http://www.cameraclean.co.uk/acatalog/Photographic_Solutions_Sensor_Cleaning_Too...
Hi Matt,
regarding the Pentax cleaning kit, I've just ordered one from SRS, so I'll let everyone know what it's like in a few days.
Here's a bablefish translation of this page on it..
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ペンタックス sells the image sensor cleaning kit "O-ICK1" for the digital single-lens reflex camera on the 30th. As for price 4,200 Yen.
ペンタックス product private image pickup element cleaning kit. You say that you have used even in service sector of the same company.
The kit consists the cleaning paper which removes the cleaning stick and come in contact with the stamp section the rubbish and the dust which have the stamp section which has stickiness in the point. When the stamp surface is pressed to the low-pass filter surface, because the rubbish, the dust and the oil content come in contact with the stamp, before cleaning other place, cleaning the stamp surface with the cleaning seat. This is repeated.
As for stamp section polyurethane rubber make. You say that by the fact that the angular section of the stamp section is pressed to the four corners of the image pickup element, it can clean to every nook and cranny. In addition, equipping the stamp section and the guide section of the similar figure on labor assistant side of the stick. While cleaning direction of the angular section can be verified.
Furthermore, from the stamp section length to cleaning stick central index from the image pickup element has become the same length to as the mount surface. Whether by the fact that you look at index, the stamp has reached in the image pickup element, verification possibility. You say that the fact that unreasonable power is added to the image pickup element is prevented.
Couldn't find it on the Pentax.co.uk site. What that actually means in English is of course another matter entirely.. ペンタックス sells the image sensor cleaning kit "O-ICK1" for the digital single-lens reflex camera on the 30th. As for price 4,200 Yen.
ペンタックス product private image pickup element cleaning kit. You say that you have used even in service sector of the same company.
The kit consists the cleaning paper which removes the cleaning stick and come in contact with the stamp section the rubbish and the dust which have the stamp section which has stickiness in the point. When the stamp surface is pressed to the low-pass filter surface, because the rubbish, the dust and the oil content come in contact with the stamp, before cleaning other place, cleaning the stamp surface with the cleaning seat. This is repeated.
As for stamp section polyurethane rubber make. You say that by the fact that the angular section of the stamp section is pressed to the four corners of the image pickup element, it can clean to every nook and cranny. In addition, equipping the stamp section and the guide section of the similar figure on labor assistant side of the stick. While cleaning direction of the angular section can be verified.
Furthermore, from the stamp section length to cleaning stick central index from the image pickup element has become the same length to as the mount surface. Whether by the fact that you look at index, the stamp has reached in the image pickup element, verification possibility. You say that the fact that unreasonable power is added to the image pickup element is prevented.
Cheers
Liam
Liam
"Make your hands respond to what your mind demands." Jesse James
Best wide-angle lens? Two steps backward. Look for the 'ah-ha'. Ernst Haas
"Make your hands respond to what your mind demands." Jesse James
Best wide-angle lens? Two steps backward. Look for the 'ah-ha'. Ernst Haas
Posted 03/06/2007 - 18:28
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they list it at Bristol Cameras for £22.. I don't know if it's in stock though.
http://www.bristolcameras.co.uk/page785.htm
I know it meantions the K10D and A100 but these two cameras should not be cleaned with the E1 solution in this pack. The E2 solution doesn't seem to be available many places at the moment.Tyr wrote:
I've just received my K10D and an Arctic Butterfly SL700. I thought that would be the best combination for dry cleaning. As for wet cleaning, the tin oxide sensor on the K10D needs a special solution mix because of the materials used and I can't find any in the UK (Eclipse E2, has to be the E2 solution, not the standard one which can corrode the sensor).
I'm hoping I don't have to run a cleaning cycle with my SL700 any time soon as it is new.
Hi Tyr,I've just received my K10D and an Arctic Butterfly SL700. I thought that would be the best combination for dry cleaning. As for wet cleaning, the tin oxide sensor on the K10D needs a special solution mix because of the materials used and I can't find any in the UK (Eclipse E2, has to be the E2 solution, not the standard one which can corrode the sensor).
I'm hoping I don't have to run a cleaning cycle with my SL700 any time soon as it is new.
they list it at Bristol Cameras for £22.. I don't know if it's in stock though.
http://www.bristolcameras.co.uk/page785.htm
Quote:
Just Digital SLR Cleaning Kit - Type 2
Kit contains 5 sensor swabs, 5cc bottle of Eclipse cleaner, 10 FlexiSwabs and 10 PecPad wipes. Type 2 suitable for Canon EOS-400D, 30D, Nikon D50, D80, Pentax K10D and Sony A100.
28th (ish) item down..Just Digital SLR Cleaning Kit - Type 2
Kit contains 5 sensor swabs, 5cc bottle of Eclipse cleaner, 10 FlexiSwabs and 10 PecPad wipes. Type 2 suitable for Canon EOS-400D, 30D, Nikon D50, D80, Pentax K10D and Sony A100.
It shouldn't do too much harm if you use it only a few times but over a long period and repeated cleaning the sensor will suffer degradation so it is best not to risk it if you want it to last you 5, 10, 15+ years. I wouldn't risk it and would not use it.
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Does this really mean that the vast array of sensor (wet) cleaning kits around are unuseable on the K10D? My sensor cleaning kit carries no such warning and so I would have used it without hesitation had the need arisen.
http://www.photosol.com/cameras_bymfg.htmlTyr wrote:
. As for wet cleaning, the tin oxide sensor on the K10D needs a special solution mix because of the materials used and I can't find any in the UK (Eclipse E2, has to be the E2 solution, not the standard one which can corrode the sensor).
This is indeed most valuable information. From whence did it come? . As for wet cleaning, the tin oxide sensor on the K10D needs a special solution mix because of the materials used and I can't find any in the UK (Eclipse E2, has to be the E2 solution, not the standard one which can corrode the sensor).
Does this really mean that the vast array of sensor (wet) cleaning kits around are unuseable on the K10D? My sensor cleaning kit carries no such warning and so I would have used it without hesitation had the need arisen.
The information comes from the manufacturer of the solution. You have to look up which camera has a tin oxide coated sensor and use the right solution. Otherwise you strip the tin oxide coating off your CCD
http://www.photosol.com/eclipse_e2product.htm
Posted 03/06/2007 - 19:44
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What about Visible Dust's sensor cleaning fluid? That is not methanol based like the Eclipse fluids are. (Also contrary to what they claim you can not take Eclipse or E2 on a plane!)
Posted 03/06/2007 - 20:23
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What about Visible Dust's sensor cleaning fluid? That is not methanol based like the Eclipse fluids are. Also contrary to what they claim you can not take Eclipse or E2 on a plane.
I don't know about visible dust's solution, but their sensor brush system should be good enough.What about Visible Dust's sensor cleaning fluid? That is not methanol based like the Eclipse fluids are. Also contrary to what they claim you can not take Eclipse or E2 on a plane.
You can always get the Pentax cleaning kit which will be fine.
It stated that neither E or E2 solutions can be taken on aircraft. I've not seen anywhere where it says you can take it onboard, let alone ship it by air.
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Anyway, the dust removal system is useless as usual and even using the Rocket Blower does not remove one large stubborn chunk of gunk from the center of my sensor.
Are there any recommended safe methods for removing stubborn dust? I am quite comfortable cleaning my istD, but not so sure the same process with wipes and alcohol are OK for the K10D with its movable parts.
Anyone brave the new world yet and able to say if this is safe or disastrous? Or am I stuck sending in for "repair" to get it cleaned.