Some PP help required.

McBrian
Posted 17/06/2007 - 17:27 Link
Some more shots from last Sundays studio session, as you can see I got part of the exposure all wrong on this shot (forgot to turn the hair light off) I've tried like blazes to bring the blown bits back but just can't seem to get it right (need some tuition on the burn tool), can any of you imaging guru's help :

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While playing around I came up with this version, quite like it myself.

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And this is Rachel as herself :arrow:

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Cheers
Brian.
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Tyr
Posted 17/06/2007 - 19:00 Link
I see no burnt/clipped bits
George Lazarette
Posted 17/06/2007 - 19:14 Link
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I see no burnt/clipped bits
Take your telescope away from your blind eye and look at her left shoulder.

Brian, once it's gone, it's gone.

G
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George Lazarette
Posted 17/06/2007 - 19:16 Link
By the way, Rachel's right wrist and hand are very elegantly posed.

G
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McBrian
Posted 17/06/2007 - 20:32 Link
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Take your telescope away from your blind eye and look at her left shoulder.
Cheers
Brian.
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fatspider
Posted 18/06/2007 - 00:56 Link
I cant see any burned bits either, maybe its my dodgy monitor?

I love the negative version, though the straight shot is just as nice, but as for Rachel, forget her

Sorry but you cant photograph a girl in boots and expect me to concentrate on the girl, you cannot have two objects of desire in the same image .....damm, my secret is out
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MattMatic
Posted 18/06/2007 - 10:00 Link
Brian,
I assume you're referring to her shoulder...
You can't use a tool to just "bring back" burnt highlights

Part of the trick is to understand the problem. Always start by looking at the channels individually - the red is what's blown out, and the blue (in this JPG at least) has the most artifacts.

So, that said, I would revisit the RAW and tone it down a touch to see if there's anything left in the red channel - maybe by reducing the exposure, or using AdobeRGB colourspace, or tweaking the colour temperature you'll get some detail back.

Failing that you need to use the stamp tool and on this amount of area it's gonna be tricky to get it to look natural. This is what I'd suggest:
* Create a blank layer on top
* Pick the clone/stamp tool
* Set the opacity to 30%
* Tick the "Sample All Layers"
* Carefully Alt-click and brush with a medium soft brush to rebuild the skin area

Keep doing this until you feel you have the area rebuilt. Then... go away and have a cup of tea (important )
When you come back, toggle the visibility of the cloned layer and see how it improves things. If it's not right, carefully erase and re-stamp.

Now, if the skin texture is fine, but the lighting looks slightly wrong...
* Add another blank layer on top
* Change the layer blend mode to "Soft Light"
* Pick the brush tool
* Set the opacity to 10%
* Pick black/white as the colours (Press "d" on the keyboard)
* Paint black to darken
* Paint white to lighten

Again, you can toggle the visibility of the soft light layer to see if you're going in the right direction.

Hope that helps!
(If you want - I'll take a look at the RAW - just email it )
Matt
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McBrian
Posted 18/06/2007 - 12:38 Link
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Sorry but you cant photograph a girl in boots and expect me to concentrate on the girl, you cannot have two objects of desire in the same image .....damm, my secret is out
I don't wheather to take that as you like Rachel, her boots or the whole image (I think I can guess though)
Cheers
Brian.
LBA is good for you, a Lens a day helps you work, rest and play.
McBrian
Posted 18/06/2007 - 12:46 Link
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Brian,
I assume you're referring to her shoulder...
You can't use a tool to just "bring back" burnt highlights

Part of the trick is to understand the problem. Always start by looking at the channels individually - the red is what's blown out, and the blue (in this JPG at least) has the most artifacts.

So, that said, I would revisit the RAW and tone it down a touch to see if there's anything left in the red channel - maybe by reducing the exposure, or using AdobeRGB colourspace, or tweaking the colour temperature you'll get some detail back.

Failing that you need to use the stamp tool and on this amount of area it's gonna be tricky to get it to look natural. This is what I'd suggest:
* Create a blank layer on top
* Pick the clone/stamp tool
* Set the opacity to 30%
* Tick the "Sample All Layers"
* Carefully Alt-click and brush with a medium soft brush to rebuild the skin area

Keep doing this until you feel you have the area rebuilt. Then... go away and have a cup of tea (important )
When you come back, toggle the visibility of the cloned layer and see how it improves things. If it's not right, carefully erase and re-stamp.

Now, if the skin texture is fine, but the lighting looks slightly wrong...
* Add another blank layer on top
* Change the layer blend mode to "Soft Light"
* Pick the brush tool
* Set the opacity to 10%
* Pick black/white as the colours (Press "d" on the keyboard)
* Paint black to darken
* Paint white to lighten

Again, you can toggle the visibility of the soft light layer to see if you're going in the right direction.

Hope that helps!
(If you want - I'll take a look at the RAW - just email it )
Matt
Cheers for this Matt, will have a go, if I'm still stuck I'll mail you the PEF file, Had another look at the PEF file in SPS3 this morning, I reckon I have been a bit too zealous in adjusting the exposure, will post a revised processed image when I'm happier with my PP skills.
Cheers
Brian.
LBA is good for you, a Lens a day helps you work, rest and play.
McBrian
Posted 18/06/2007 - 12:47 Link
Quote:
By the way, Rachel's right wrist and hand are very elegantly posed.

G
Thanks for that George, I was quite happy the way the pose tuned out.
Cheers
Brian.
LBA is good for you, a Lens a day helps you work, rest and play.
McBrian
Posted 18/06/2007 - 18:28 Link
Revision 2, any better.......or have I introduced my pink tinge again, looks fine in PS, converting to sRGB and load to pbase seems to add the pink tinge on some of my images.........or have I become a bit paranoid :

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Cheers
Brian.
LBA is good for you, a Lens a day helps you work, rest and play.
George Lazarette
Posted 18/06/2007 - 18:37 Link
Well done. I doubt that any more tweaking would be worthwhile.

G
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