Shooting clouds with the K-7

SteveLedger
Posted 15/12/2010 - 02:51 Link
I seem to use the 18-250mm ED SMC (kit)lens on the K-7 most of the time.
I'd like to capture shots of storm clouds but not getting the right exposures. Either the foreground is very underexposed or the clouds are blow-out.

I've tried many different settings trying to get it right - but not having the greatest of luck so far.

Does anyone have experience in this area of photography which I can learn from?
Many thanks.
MarkD
Posted 15/12/2010 - 07:08 Link
You should get some graduated ND filters. The difference between even a cloudy sky and the ground will be several stops so without these filters or some post processing you are never going to be able to get both right ( or even close).
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Pentaxophile
Posted 15/12/2010 - 07:33 Link
Ideally wait for a sunny interval - it can look so dramatic. Or you could try autobracketing and then post processing. The auto-bracketing is great on the K-7, rattles up to 5 shots off very fast which means they are easier to align in PS.
snappychappy
Posted 15/12/2010 - 07:48 Link
You can also use post processing in Photoshop, select the sky area and darken it down using levels.
SteveLedger
Posted 15/12/2010 - 08:03 Link
MarkD wrote:
You should get some graduated ND filters.
Yes this seems like a something worth trying.
I don't mind pp of course but I'm not to happy with heavy pp - which is what I had to do to bring out the foreground in this test shot yesterday.

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Pentaxophile wrote:
Ideally wait for a sunny interval - it can look so dramatic.
Definately

Pentaxophile wrote:

Or you could try autobracketing and then post processing.
Yes I've tried this, but alignment is still a bit off, I need to use a tripod more often but it's not always convenient of course.

Thanks to all for responding, I'm on the right track I think - just need more time and experience by the sounds of it (and an ND filter)

Thanks
snappychappy
Posted 15/12/2010 - 08:49 Link
HDR ?
SmutjeUK
Posted 15/12/2010 - 08:58 Link
HDR is a good idea or use a PLC filter. I usually use ND filters in various density (from 2 to 10 depending on the weather) but I got good results with a PLC filter as well.
Kind regards
SmutjeUK

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sf
Posted 15/12/2010 - 09:07 Link
using a polariser made all the difference to my own sky pics.
SmutjeUK
Posted 15/12/2010 - 09:08 Link
sledger wrote:
MarkD wrote:
You should get some graduated ND filters.
Yes this seems like a something worth trying.
I don't mind pp of course but I'm not to happy with heavy pp - which is what I had to do to bring out the foreground in this test shot yesterday.

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Pentaxophile wrote:
Ideally wait for a sunny interval - it can look so dramatic.
Definately

Pentaxophile wrote:

Or you could try autobracketing and then post processing.
Yes I've tried this, but alignment is still a bit off, I need to use a tripod more often but it's not always convenient of course.

Thanks to all for responding, I'm on the right track I think - just need more time and experience by the sounds of it (and an ND filter)

Thanks
Another way would be to shoot in RAW or RAW+ and then use Split-RAW technique in PP. Follow the link here to get a video tutorial of how to do this.
Kind regards
SmutjeUK

It's nice to be nice!

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SteveLedger
Posted 15/12/2010 - 09:09 Link
snappychappy wrote:
HDR ?
If this is a question about my sample photo above, no - not HDR.
Was a single shot processed in Xara Designer Pro6.

If it's a suggestion, then thanks but I'm not a fan of HDR as a rule, I've seen way too many overcooked results.
A little tone mapping with PhotoMatix helps with some images, but generally this too can look overdone with very little effort
SteveLedger
Posted 15/12/2010 - 09:23 Link
SmutjeUK wrote:

Another way would be to shoot in RAW or RAW+ and then use Split-RAW technique in PP.
Yes, after watching that video tut' I see it's a very similar technique to what I use with JPG in Xara Designer Pro6, though of course I don't quite have the dynamic range that RAW offers me.

I've not shot RAW very much lately (I shot RAW with the *istDS 90% of the time) due to a desire to master the K-7 shooting JPG first, don't ask why - it just seems a logical approach to me.
SmutjeUK
Posted 15/12/2010 - 09:30 Link
sledger wrote:
SmutjeUK wrote:

Another way would be to shoot in RAW or RAW+ and then use Split-RAW technique in PP.
Yes, after watching that video tut' I see it's a very similar technique to what I use with JPG in Xara Designer Pro6, though of course I don't quite have the dynamic range that RAW offers me.

I've not shot RAW very much lately (I shot RAW with the *istDS 90% of the time) due to a desire to master the K-7 shooting JPG first, don't ask why - it just seems a logical approach to me.
Maybe shooting in RAW+? It gives you the best of both worlds as you got a RAW image as well as a JPEG one. Then just use the one that is best suited for your purpose.
I always shoot in RAW+ (OK, I got 12TB now of storage as well, so no shortage here) but it just gives you the extra flexibility and you always can delete what you do not want/need or when you got the finished picture.
Just a thought.
Kind regards
SmutjeUK

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