Searching for shutter count on K5 & K3

Hi
Can anyone let me know how you find the current shutter count on a K5 & K3?
I thought it might be shown on startup but no sign.

Thanks Al

If you have the camera set to continuous counting, then your last file number will give you a pretty good idea.

Otherwise, there are sites that you can upload your last JPEG to and they will tell you all the information including shutter count.

http://www.pentaxforums.com/pages/check-shutter-count-exif.html

Download PhotoMe from the web and when you open an image in this, it gives a mass of data including the shutter count

Thanks everyone for the help, found the info.

Regards, Al