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Posted 30/08/2007 - 11:19
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If i am not mistaken you can Check an option in your display properties to allow it to fit the window other wise it crops it back to fit. I could be wrong but i cant access the display properties on my work computer to check.
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Posted 30/08/2007 - 11:28
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If I select "stretch" in the display properties window, the screen resizes the picture to show it in its entirety. In this case it is sowing a 3008x2008 pixel image in a 1024x768 pixel space.
If I select "stretch" in the display properties window, the screen resizes the picture to show it in its entirety. In this case it is sowing a 3008x2008 pixel image in a 1024x768 pixel space.
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Posted 30/08/2007 - 12:13
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If I select "stretch" in the display properties window, the screen resizes the picture to show it in its entirety. In this case it is sowing a 3008x2008 pixel image in a 1024x768 pixel space.
No it's not.If I select "stretch" in the display properties window, the screen resizes the picture to show it in its entirety. In this case it is sowing a 3008x2008 pixel image in a 1024x768 pixel space.
It's showing a 1024x768 pixel image in a 1024x768 pixel space.
The original may have been 3008x2008, but what you're seeing isn't that.
This is why people claiming to be able to compare anything but the grossest of sharpness differences by looking at full frame images on a computer screen are sadly mistaken.
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If i have my screen resolution set to 1024x768, and i place a picture on the desktop that is 3008x2008, what happens to the "excess" pixels. Does the screen "compress" the pixels or actually discard some pixels ?
It's not the screen that does it. It's whatever software is converting the graphics file for screen display, and/or whatever the graphics card hardware does. But the excess pixels are discarded, and/or replaced with averages of the neighbouring ones.If i have my screen resolution set to 1024x768, and i place a picture on the desktop that is 3008x2008, what happens to the "excess" pixels. Does the screen "compress" the pixels or actually discard some pixels ?
No such thing as half a pixel.
Posted 30/08/2007 - 12:18
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So does that mean that the screen disregards some of the pixels in the original file, actually changes the displayed pixel width of the image ?
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Posted 30/08/2007 - 12:28
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So does that mean that the screen disregards some of the pixels in the original file
Well, depending on the software, I'd say eliminates, rather than disregards. It does it according to an algorithm, not randomly.So does that mean that the screen disregards some of the pixels in the original file
But
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, actually changes the displayed pixel width of the image ?
Absolutely.
, actually changes the displayed pixel width of the image ?
Posted 30/08/2007 - 12:40
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This is a very good question and Chris has given a very good description of what happens when you resize for screen...but this also applies to your image editing program too.
For instance when applying sharpening to an image you should ALWAYS view the image a 100%, not less or not more, your sharpening may look horrendous when the image is displayed in a window half the size of your screen but when viewed at 100% it may very well be just the ticket.
For instance when applying sharpening to an image you should ALWAYS view the image a 100%, not less or not more, your sharpening may look horrendous when the image is displayed in a window half the size of your screen but when viewed at 100% it may very well be just the ticket.
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Posted 30/08/2007 - 12:42
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Thanks Chris
logical reallly I suppose, but somehow I couldnt get my head around it. Happens a lot these days I am afraid.
logical reallly I suppose, but somehow I couldnt get my head around it. Happens a lot these days I am afraid.
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Posted 30/08/2007 - 14:42
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For instance when applying sharpening to an image you should ALWAYS view the image a 100%, not less or not more, your sharpening may look horendous when the image is displayed in a window half the size of your screen but when viewed at 100% it may very well be the the just the ticket.
Thanks for that McBrian - had never taken that on board before. Means I can probably sharpen more than I do when wanting to print!For instance when applying sharpening to an image you should ALWAYS view the image a 100%, not less or not more, your sharpening may look horendous when the image is displayed in a window half the size of your screen but when viewed at 100% it may very well be the the just the ticket.
Andy
Posted 30/08/2007 - 15:42
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Means I can probably sharpen more than I do when wanting to print!
Sharpening for print always looks too aggressive on screen.Means I can probably sharpen more than I do when wanting to print!
In general you should view at 50% on screen and apply sharpening so you just see the halos appearing.
The 50% view size in Photoshop roughly approximates how it will print.
Have a look at the guides on www.thelightsrightstudio.com - the PDFs and lessons on "Putting a fine edge on your sharpening skills". I think it's covered in there.
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Posted 30/08/2007 - 18:01
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Thanks for the link, Matt.
Followed the link through and went to copy a version to my PC, and then discovered I had already downloaded it sometime ago and forgotten about it.
Must read it now, and see how the techniques apply to using Pic Window Pro (the programme this weeks Amateur Photographer has reviewed)
Andy
Followed the link through and went to copy a version to my PC, and then discovered I had already downloaded it sometime ago and forgotten about it.
Must read it now, and see how the techniques apply to using Pic Window Pro (the programme this weeks Amateur Photographer has reviewed)
Andy
Posted 30/08/2007 - 18:10
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Thanks for the link Matt, just when you think youv'e got it some other bit falls into your lap.
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Posted 19/12/2007 - 10:57
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In general you should view at 50% on screen and apply sharpening so you just see the halos appearing.
The 50% view size in Photoshop roughly approximates how it will print.
Been trying to find this thread so that I can say thanks to Matt for this little nugget. Used this when doing a small catalogue and the images came out so crisp and detailed - looked stunning. Also worked a treat on my calendar pics too. In general you should view at 50% on screen and apply sharpening so you just see the halos appearing.
The 50% view size in Photoshop roughly approximates how it will print.
Dan
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Posted 19/12/2007 - 13:35
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Glad it helped Dan
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If i have my screen resolution set to 1024x768, and i place a picture on the desktop that is 3008x2008, what happens to the "excess" pixels. Does the screen "compress" the pixels or actually discard some pixels ?
Sorry if this is a silly question ?
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