replacement / mending for broken flash unit

Posted 02/07/2009 - 23:17 Link
I got my Jessops 360AFDP before I had done any homework and wasn't aware that it isn't too compatible with my k10D.
It's powerful enough and has given some good results imho. BUT I'm sure I could have got something better.
And now it's bust - the firing circuit, I think. The motor works and the inverter whistles a nicely rising note at switch-on but neither the test button nor the camera will make it flash.
It went intermittent near the beginning of my first wedding (aaargh) and then stopped completely.
I would like to get it repaired but haven't found anyone interested (in Brighton).

Two questions then: Is there anywhere who could do that sort of repair in the UK and, failing that, is there a more compatible unit which won't cost more than about £100?

I may look inside and have a tinker - you never know,it could just be a loose wire or an obviously cooked component.
Mannesty
Posted 02/07/2009 - 23:19 Link
You might be able to pick up a used AF360FGZ for that kind of money.

BEWARE: Some seriously high voltages may exist on components inside your flash. It would not be wise to 'have a go' yourself unless you know what you are doing.
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beakynet
Posted 03/07/2009 - 13:28 Link
Are you using Alkalines? I have found this same sympton on an old flash of mine as rechargables operate at 1.2 volts the batteries were not pushing enough power to charge the flash. Alkalines at 1.5 volts solved this problem.
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Edited by beakynet: 03/07/2009 - 13:29
Mannesty
Posted 03/07/2009 - 14:55 Link
Checkout this thread. Samsung badged but otherwise the same as the Pentax AF360FGZ.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Oggy
Posted 03/07/2009 - 18:39 Link
I second Mannesty's warning about the voltages inside flashguns.

As to the alkaline/NiMH thing, although the open circuit voltage of an alkaline is higher, so is it's internal resistance. This means that as you start to draw current the voltage of the alkaline will fall away faster, and at some point the voltage of the NiMH will exceed that of the alkali battery. This is why a flashgun which takes 6 seconds to recharge on alkalis may only take 4 seconds with NiMHs.
shim
Posted 03/07/2009 - 19:10 Link
It could be the batteries they need to be quite powerful. My old Sunpak 5000 used to charge up in 7 secs with Sanyo Cadnica Ni-Cads. Lesser batteries take twice as long and cheap batteries just never quite manage to bring the green light on.

shim
Posted 04/07/2009 - 17:15 Link
Comments taken on board, thanks.
I know all about getting a belt off circuits - got the T shirt.
I'm using Alkali batteries but I have found that they have lasted for ages in the past - incredibly more than with my two previous ancient designs.
I guess there's no dice with a £40 repair, somewhere then?
Posted 05/07/2009 - 23:53 Link
I managed to mend it. A wire to the flash tube has come adrift as the zoom mechanism had moved back and forth. Not for the squeamish as a repair job. So many loose wires and four separate circuit boards. All hand soldered plus loads of screws. Assembly costs must be enormous compared with mobile phones and PDAs.

What is the pttl experience like? Is it significantly usefull? Using the flash on manual an referring to the histogram of a test shot works pretty well in any case.
Mannesty
Posted 05/07/2009 - 23:59 Link
Well done for fixing it.

Pentax P-TTL? It works well in some situations and not in others. If manual works for you, why automate unnecessarily ?
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream

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