Q at ISO1600
Posted 07/09/2011 - 17:06
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johnriley wrote:
Funnily enough, I am no Pentax fanboy as you put it a couple of comments back. I tell it as I see it, and there are lots of cameras I like and use. But this forum is Pentax User and other cameras are off-topic unless of interest to Pentax users for some reason.
We've now established that the Q sensor is not the same one as your compact Smeggypants, maybe the same type but not the same one. It's a new version.
Thus the dangers of speculation in advance. Now the TX-5 is nothing to do with the Q, at least not in more than passing regarding the sensor evolution, so please get back on-topic.
So they've used the same sensor circuitry and added some more pixels? Funnily enough, I am no Pentax fanboy as you put it a couple of comments back. I tell it as I see it, and there are lots of cameras I like and use. But this forum is Pentax User and other cameras are off-topic unless of interest to Pentax users for some reason.
We've now established that the Q sensor is not the same one as your compact Smeggypants, maybe the same type but not the same one. It's a new version.
Thus the dangers of speculation in advance. Now the TX-5 is nothing to do with the Q, at least not in more than passing regarding the sensor evolution, so please get back on-topic.
I did actually make mention of this over 2 months ago, but unfortunately forgot mention it here
The IQ of pics I've seen from the Q look exactly the same to the pics I get from my Compact Smeggypants
So I would disagree the sensor of the TX-5 has nothing to do with the Q. to all intents and purposes it is the same sensor.
Funny that a published 'review' makes a vague and unsubstantiated statement that it's a new sensor not used in any other camera and that this is taken as gospel. It's in a published review, so it must be true.
Yet when there's actual evidence it is the same sensor, but with added pixels this counts for nothing?
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other cameras are off-topic unless of interest to Pentax users for some reason.
No problem - I am a Pentax user and I am interested in other cameras from time to time.
other cameras are off-topic unless of interest to Pentax users for some reason.
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Posted 07/09/2011 - 17:20
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johnriley wrote:
other cameras are off-topic unless of interest to Pentax users for some reason.
Something I've always wondered though John - we are able to discuss other brands in the General Digital Photography chat Forum are'nt we?
other cameras are off-topic unless of interest to Pentax users for some reason.
Posted 07/09/2011 - 17:22
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Anvh wrote:
The sony use SR in the lens i believe so that point they are not the same and steel is something else then magnesium.
The TX-5 is probably pressed but you can't do that with magnesium i believe.
I'm just saying that i can understand the price and that we need to wait for some real tests before judging the Q.
So far it seems i've been right with the later.
So both cameras have got SR and are made of metal. So it's unlikely that Pentax would have to make it out of plastic and ditch the SR in order to sell it for £300 instead £600The sony use SR in the lens i believe so that point they are not the same and steel is something else then magnesium.
The TX-5 is probably pressed but you can't do that with magnesium i believe.
I'm just saying that i can understand the price and that we need to wait for some real tests before judging the Q.
So far it seems i've been right with the later.
The price of something is subjective so if it's right for you then it's right, and no one can argue against that.
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Posted 07/09/2011 - 17:33
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we are able to discuss other brands in the General Digital Photography chat Forum are'nt we?
The General Digital Photography section is intended for discussion of Photoshop, printers, web matters, in other words things that apertain to our Pentax photography that are not about compacts or DSLRs. The peripherals if you like. If you read the description of the section, that's what it means.we are able to discuss other brands in the General Digital Photography chat Forum are'nt we?
If we remember that the function of the site is intended to be a resource for Pentax Users, then it really sums it up. Obviously general photography comes into it, but not somebody telling us all about their new Canon DSLR, for example.
Best regards, John
Posted 07/09/2011 - 17:56
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[quote:3496ace15f="johnriley"]
I don't see the value in a purist Pentax stance everywhere. I'm not sure what we are guarding against to be honest.
We just enjoy photography; if we as Pentax owners want to discuss other brands, why should'nt we in the appropriate section?
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not somebody telling us all about their new Canon DSLR, for example.
Of course that would be innapropriate, but I can see the value in discussing other brands should we wish to in a designated area to compare features/mention reviews. Such as "The new Sony XYZ looks interesting" for example. Or if some members use dual systems, what are their thoughts/experiences on keeping a pentax and another system simultaniously. I can think of a lot of useful debates we could have about photography which may involve other brands. not somebody telling us all about their new Canon DSLR, for example.
I don't see the value in a purist Pentax stance everywhere. I'm not sure what we are guarding against to be honest.
We just enjoy photography; if we as Pentax owners want to discuss other brands, why should'nt we in the appropriate section?
Posted 07/09/2011 - 18:10
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Please note the position of the full stop in the section description!
It's not proved to be a problem so far, but we're not protecting anything, what we are doing is ensuring that when Pentax users arrive here looking for help with their cameras, that they find a Pentax dedicated site.
General discussion is wide open at ePHOTOzine.
It's not proved to be a problem so far, but we're not protecting anything, what we are doing is ensuring that when Pentax users arrive here looking for help with their cameras, that they find a Pentax dedicated site.
General discussion is wide open at ePHOTOzine.
Best regards, John
Posted 07/09/2011 - 18:34
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johnriley wrote:
what we are doing is ensuring that when Pentax users arrive here looking for help with their cameras, that they find a Pentax dedicated site.
General discussion is wide open at ePHOTOzine.
I could'nt agree more. what we are doing is ensuring that when Pentax users arrive here looking for help with their cameras, that they find a Pentax dedicated site.
General discussion is wide open at ePHOTOzine.
I also dont see the two being mutually exclusive as long as the right framework is provided. This is just my humble opinion.
ePhotozine is of course an option. But that's a different community. Another forum to have to keep checks on.
I just think it would add value to our area that's all.
Posted 07/09/2011 - 18:50
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Snootchies wrote:
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We just enjoy photography; if we as Pentax owners want to discuss other brands, why should'nt we in the appropriate section?
Exactly. [
We just enjoy photography; if we as Pentax owners want to discuss other brands, why should'nt we in the appropriate section?
When the K-5 had just appeared last year my Canon shooting buddy linked me to some threads at the Canon photography forum where they were openly discussing the K-5 with many canonites saying how good it was ( to the annoyance of some Canon fanboys )
And yes as you say many snappers use more than one brand.
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Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Posted 07/09/2011 - 22:55
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The ground rules are already established and it's not proposed to change them, it soon gets out of hand and dilutes the Pentax nature of the forum.
Best regards, John
Posted 08/09/2011 - 05:42
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johnriley wrote:
The ground rules are already established and it's not proposed to change them, it soon gets out of hand and dilutes the Pentax nature of the forum.
No problem. As said already - and quoted below ... understood and respected .. The ground rules are already established and it's not proposed to change them, it soon gets out of hand and dilutes the Pentax nature of the forum.
[quote="smeggy"]
[quote="johnriley"]other cameras are off-topic unless of interest to Pentax users for some reason.[/quote]No problem - I am a Pentax user and I am interested in other cameras from time to time.[/quote]
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
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Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
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We've now established that the Q sensor is not the same one as your compact Smeggypants, maybe the same type but not the same one. It's a new version.
Thus the dangers of speculation in advance. Now the TX-5 is nothing to do with the Q, at least not in more than passing regarding the sensor evolution, so please get back on-topic.