Puppy Love?

Mike-P
Posted 30/07/2009 - 18:35 Link
Not sure Finlay was in the best of moods when I took this.

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Edited by Mike-P: 30/07/2009 - 18:35
aminstar
Posted 30/07/2009 - 18:48 Link
That's quite an awsome set of teeth Mike , Wouldn't want to stick my hand near those ones.

That's Finlay's way of saying I love you to your son huh? The eyes say it all, you can clearly see that affectionate expression from the eyes of Finlay
paulyrichard
Posted 30/07/2009 - 20:03 Link
This is a great photo and a scary one. That dog is not showin' very good behaviour, regardless.
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Gwyn
Posted 30/07/2009 - 21:09 Link
Sorry Mike but I agree with Paul. A great photo, and a scary one.

I personally would be less than happy if one of my dogs behaved like that with one of my children - that is a very threatening grimace, from a very unhappy, nervous dog. I'm not sure I'd be taking photos if I saw my dog behaving like that around a child.

I'd be a bit careful of letting your son get that close to Finlay again tbh.
mikew
Posted 30/07/2009 - 21:20 Link
You could argue that since the dog didn't actually do anything despite his mood that he is in fact a very well behaved dog. But I agree I wouldn't be putting my hand out for that dog to sniff!

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Gwyn
Posted 30/07/2009 - 21:30 Link
The dog is clearly issuing a warning which needs to be heeded.
aminstar
Posted 31/07/2009 - 08:15 Link
Gwyn wrote:
The dog is clearly issuing a warning which needs to be heeded.
That could well be a smile from Finlay. The ones closer to him are the ones who know him better as they would be used to his behaviour and attitude. Its easy for an outsider to misinterpret expressions and behaviour unless its an open unequivocal aggressive attitude from the dog.
andyvarney
Posted 31/07/2009 - 08:28 Link
Yep, my younger dog does something very similar when she is relaxed and seems to be smiling but to the casual observer it looks she's about to have your hand off!
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thoughton
Posted 31/07/2009 - 10:04 Link
Hmmm, ears back, teeth bared. That dog isn't smiling
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Mannesty
Posted 31/07/2009 - 10:26 Link
The last dog of mine that looked like that actually followed it up and bit me. I'd given him the benefit of the doubt a few months before when he bit me for the first time and I was playing a bit rough with him.

The second time we were on holiday and his attack was entirely unprovoked, except he wanted to come shopping with us, and he wasn't allowed. He jumped in to the back of my Mazda 626 eatate car and when I went to get him out, he leapt at me and pinned me up against the side of our caravan.

Within 30 minutes he was in the vet's and on his way to that big kennel in the sky. I couldn't risk having such an unpredictable dog around my then two young son's, one of which was actually about the age of the child in your photo.

That's him in my avatar, Keri. An otherwise brilliant dog but he got a very high opinion of himself. We'd had him about 6 years.

And thoughton is quite right, ears back and teeth barred, means 'one sudden move and I'll have you'. It is most definitely not smiling.

If this is not a trained stunt animal, please be careful with dogs that display this behaviour. One day you may push them just that little bit too far and come to regret it. Sometimes, just direct eye contact can trigger this behaviour with a dog that's having an 'off' day.

I trained dogs for about 12 years and worked with RAF dog handlers. I've seen this expression plenty of times and it most often ends in grief.
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Edited by Mannesty: 31/07/2009 - 10:34
aminstar
Posted 31/07/2009 - 11:00 Link
Mannesty wrote:
The last dog of mine that looked like that actually followed it up and bit me. I'd given him the benefit of the doubt a few months before when he bit me for the first time and I was playing a bit rough with him.

The second time we were on holiday and his attack was entirely unprovoked, except he wanted to come shopping with us, and he wasn't allowed. He jumped in to the back of my Mazda 626 eatate car and when I went to get him out, he leapt at me and pinned me up against the side of our caravan.

Within 30 minutes he was in the vet's and on his way to that big kennel in the sky. I couldn't risk having such an unpredictable dog around my then two young son's, one of which was actually about the age of the child in your photo.

That's him in my avatar, Keri. An otherwise brilliant dog but he got a very high opinion of himself. We'd had him about 6 years.

And thoughton is quite right, ears back and teeth barred, means 'one sudden move and I'll have you'. It is most definitely not smiling.

If this is not a trained stunt animal, please be careful with dogs that display this behaviour. One day you may push them just that little bit too far and come to regret it. Sometimes, just direct eye contact can trigger this behaviour with a dog that's having an 'off' day.

I trained dogs for about 12 years and worked with RAF dog handlers. I've seen this expression plenty of times and it most often ends in grief.
Peter,
that was a great post and very well explained. Seems you know and understand a lot about them. It was a great read and certainly learned a lot from what you have written and explained.

Am definitely much wiser regarding these animals now and their behaviour and attitude. It does take a very experienced person to be able to put it the way you did, and thank you for taking the time to put it all in such a well explained and exemplified manner.

Thanks
Amin
Mannesty
Posted 31/07/2009 - 11:26 Link
Having re-read my own post, the trip to the vet's might appear cold and heartless. It was actually a heartbreaking decision to make and it ruined our holiday. The whole family loved him and he'd never exhibited such behaviour towards humans before, other than what I've described above.

He could only ever be walked on a lead though, even through woodland. If he came across another animal with four legs, all hell broke lose. But another dog can usually defend itself by either running away, being very submissive, or standing firm and having a go. A child can do none of these things.
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Edited by Mannesty: 31/07/2009 - 11:28
Mike-P
Posted 07/08/2009 - 18:48 Link
And Finlay in a totally different mood.

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Oggy
Posted 07/08/2009 - 23:00 Link
Sorry but that photo looks like "Seconds before the accident" to me.
Mike-P
Posted 07/08/2009 - 23:13 Link
Oggy wrote:
Sorry but that photo looks like "Seconds before the accident" to me.
Why are you sorry?

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