Photography from a hide


bforbes

Link Posted 23/02/2009 - 19:37
I have R.S.P.B. & W.W.T. sites local to me and would like to try my hand at Photography from a hide. Having visited some of the hides before I started with Photography I imagine a tripod is out due to the space available. Has anyone any tips? Kit would be K10 and DA* 300 or Tamron 70-200 f2.8.
Barrie
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beginner

Link Posted 23/02/2009 - 20:02
Hi Barrie!.......they usually have a narrow bench under the viewing slot,I just use my mini tripod as a table top support,it works a treat!............Ken
K20D...ist DS ,DA18/55,DA16/45.DA* 50/135,"A"1.7 50MM..."A" 70/210..M 50mm f2...Tamron 90mm macro,28/300 Tamron,200/500 Tamron 6.9....A Pentax DA*300... Sigma10/20,FA31mm 1.8 Ltd*********,FA 77mm Ltd!

bforbes

Link Posted 23/02/2009 - 20:19
beginner wrote:
Hi Barrie!.......they usually have a narrow bench under the viewing slot,I just use my mini tripod as a table top support,it works a treat!............Ken

What sort of mini tripod are you talking about? The things i have don't take the weight of a K10 and telephoto. I had been looking at hide clamps to fit the bench you mention, any experience with these?
Barrie
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beginner

Link Posted 23/02/2009 - 20:54
I have a little Velbon tripod which I use mainly for macro shots!...it is full size but shrinks down to about 12" high!....holds my K20D and DA*300 Just fine!.........Ken

sorry but no experience of clamps!...I must have a look at them!.........
K20D...ist DS ,DA18/55,DA16/45.DA* 50/135,"A"1.7 50MM..."A" 70/210..M 50mm f2...Tamron 90mm macro,28/300 Tamron,200/500 Tamron 6.9....A Pentax DA*300... Sigma10/20,FA31mm 1.8 Ltd*********,FA 77mm Ltd!
Last Edited by beginner on 23/02/2009 - 20:56

Cliff-P

Link Posted 23/02/2009 - 21:56
Hi Barrie, I've been to a few reserves with varying size hides, the smaller ones are impossible for tripods. Best solutions are a monopod or a smallish bean bag ,stick the bag in the veiwing slot and rest your camera on that, works well Never used a clamp either, so cant comment but they look good.

Hope this helps
Cliff.




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chirpy

Link Posted 24/02/2009 - 10:03
I use:

. A tripod (you can squeeze them in between the seat and the viewing slot if you're careful)
. A bean bag (make sure you get one with a length of cord which you attach to your belt, otherwise you may end up losing your bean bag through the hide slot)
. A monopod (not really a good idea as it wobbles around too much)
. Rest the lens on the tripod foot in the hide slot

The last one is now my preferred options after trying all the others. If you don't have a tripod foot, I'd go with the bean bag - those give you the best range of motion and the ability to move quickly if a surprise turns up at a tricky angle.

In a tent hide I'd use a tripod as there's nothing else to rest on.

This is using the Tamron 300mm SP, the Pentax DA* 300mm and the Sigma 500mm f4.5
Jonathan

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Last Edited by chirpy on 24/02/2009 - 10:06

Daniel Bridge

Link Posted 24/02/2009 - 10:36
chirpy wrote:
Rest the lens on the tripod foot in the hide slot

Hmm? Not sure what you mean by tripod foot.

Dan
K-3, a macro lens and a DA*300mm...

Russ

Link Posted 24/02/2009 - 11:36
Excellent thread, i was going to ask the same question. I had settled on a monopod but at least i know that is the wrong choice now. I have a small sturdy tripod that i use with a spotter.

Interested to know what a 'tripod foot' is. I too have no idea.

Russ

bforbes

Link Posted 24/02/2009 - 11:59
beginner wrote:
I have a little Velbon tripod which I use mainly for macro shots!...it is full size but shrinks down to about 12" high!.

Is this the sort of thing?link
Barrie
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Gwyn

Link Posted 24/02/2009 - 12:01
Tripod foot = tripod mount/collar on long lenses I assume.
If you go the bean bag route, not only have it on a piece of string, but make sure it is big enough - often they are not very big and so are worse than useless. If you, or someone you know, is handy with a sewing machine they are easy to make.

ttk

Link Posted 24/02/2009 - 12:07
Gwyn wrote:
Tripod foot = tripod mount/collar on long lenses I assume.
If you go the bean bag route, not only have it on a piece of string, but make sure it is big enough - often they are not very big and so are worse than useless. If you, or someone you know, is handy with a sewing machine they are easy to make.

Years ago I had some bean bags made 15ins x 9ins and filled with 'poly' balls for my old Nikon 300 f2.8, and 200 f2 lenses but sold them with the lenses, but as you say Gwyn can be made.
Tel,

tomkeet

Link Posted 24/02/2009 - 12:45
The bean bags I have I removed the Poly balls and filled them with Harrogate beans, bit heavier but solid. Handy on the car roof etc for that quick shot!!
Regards
Tom

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Cliff-P

Link Posted 24/02/2009 - 12:46
If you decide to make your own, make sure its "Waterproof", (nothing worse than a soggy bean bag)
Cliff.




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tomkeet

Link Posted 24/02/2009 - 12:59
Barrie there is a firm making Beanbags in Durham. Nice dry ones!!http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/loweswood/index/image-support.html
Regards
Tom

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HD PENTAX-DA 1:5.6 560mm ED AW,
HD PENTAX -DA 1.4x AW AF REAR CONVERTER,
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bforbes

Link Posted 24/02/2009 - 19:28
tomkeet wrote:
Barrie there is a firm making Beanbags in Durham. Nice dry ones!!http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/loweswood/index/image-support.html

thanks tom i'll have a look.

Do you use a beanbag in the same way you would a tripod. that is, line up the shot, leave go and release the shutter with a remote? or do you just use it for support while holding the camera?
Barrie
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