Pentax K20D/K200D Launch Party 29th March 2008
Posted 31/01/2008 - 16:35
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I would presume from this that the retail pricing is sticking at £899 then?
Whilst I do appreciate the efforts made to secure a deal of some kind for forum users, with the GX20 retailing at £699 with a kit lens, a better deal would be 'spend £699, save £200, have a K10D as a backup.'
Paying £200 for a badge really puts me off!
Whilst I do appreciate the efforts made to secure a deal of some kind for forum users, with the GX20 retailing at £699 with a kit lens, a better deal would be 'spend £699, save £200, have a K10D as a backup.'
Paying £200 for a badge really puts me off!
Posted 31/01/2008 - 17:47
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Whilst I may want some of the K20D's new capabilities, I can't say that I really need them. I'll wait a year or so until the firmware is sorted and the price has dropped.
I was an early adopter of the K10D, with which I am more than happy. It can teach me a lot more than I can teach it, so I'll be sticking with it for now at least. If the exposure issue with pre-A series lenses isn't fixed in the K20D, I'll not be buying one anyway. I have only 3 pre-A lenses, but I use them quite a bit . . . on my *istD . . . because they don't work properly on the K10D. That kind of shoots down Pentax's acclaimed 'backwards compatibility' claim.
I'm sure there's a retail outlet somewhere near Watford that'll be doing good deals too.
I was an early adopter of the K10D, with which I am more than happy. It can teach me a lot more than I can teach it, so I'll be sticking with it for now at least. If the exposure issue with pre-A series lenses isn't fixed in the K20D, I'll not be buying one anyway. I have only 3 pre-A lenses, but I use them quite a bit . . . on my *istD . . . because they don't work properly on the K10D. That kind of shoots down Pentax's acclaimed 'backwards compatibility' claim.
I'm sure there's a retail outlet somewhere near Watford that'll be doing good deals too.
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Posted 31/01/2008 - 18:18
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You guessed correctly Peter - if it was us you were meaning of course!
Watch this space....
Plenty of offers coming including a demo day in the middle of March
Chris
Watch this space....
Plenty of offers coming including a demo day in the middle of March
Chris
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Posted 01/02/2008 - 14:42
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Plenty of offers coming including a demo day in the middle of March
I can't make the 16th or the 22nd, so if you could work round those... Plenty of offers coming including a demo day in the middle of March
Will you have the new lenses to play with too?
Dan
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Posted 01/02/2008 - 14:59
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I would presume from this that the retail pricing is sticking at £899 then?
Whilst I do appreciate the efforts made to secure a deal of some kind for forum users, with the GX20 retailing at £699 with a kit lens, a better deal would be 'spend £699, save £200, have a K10D as a backup.'
Paying £200 for a badge really puts me off!
I was, until now, allways more tempted to go for the Pentax labeled item but GBP 200 (Euro 300) for a Pentax badge is quite weird since Samsung did a large part of the electronics design work. If there is GBP 50 between the two I will buy a Pentax item but for a GBP 200 difference I will certainly go for the Samsung item. GBP 200 will never be a difference you will make up when you end up reselling the unit in a couple of years.
I would presume from this that the retail pricing is sticking at £899 then?
Whilst I do appreciate the efforts made to secure a deal of some kind for forum users, with the GX20 retailing at £699 with a kit lens, a better deal would be 'spend £699, save £200, have a K10D as a backup.'
Paying £200 for a badge really puts me off!
Camera:K20D|Ist*DS|Spotmatic II|MZ-10
Pentax Lenses: DA16-45|DA50-200|50A 1.7
Tamron Lenses: 28-200
Takumar Lenses: SMC 55 1.8
Sigma Lenses: EX DG 50-500 'Bigma'|EX 50mm Macro
Flashes: Metz 58 AF-1|Samsung SEF-36PZF|Pentax AF-220T
Pentax Lenses: DA16-45|DA50-200|50A 1.7
Tamron Lenses: 28-200
Takumar Lenses: SMC 55 1.8
Sigma Lenses: EX DG 50-500 'Bigma'|EX 50mm Macro
Flashes: Metz 58 AF-1|Samsung SEF-36PZF|Pentax AF-220T
Posted 01/02/2008 - 16:07
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It's never as clear-cut as we may think. When older items get sold on eBay then the genuine Pentax lenses go for very good prices and the sought after rarer lenses go for sometimes amazing prices. The independent lenses of the same era go for very little and sometimes don't sell at all.
As regards Pentax and Samsung alternatives, in the more distant future it depends on where the relationship goes. It could be possible that ten years from now it will be difficult to persuade the uninformed buyer that the two are the same.
However, the choice is there now for us to make as we see things and whichever is chosen the results photographically will be excellent.
As regards Pentax and Samsung alternatives, in the more distant future it depends on where the relationship goes. It could be possible that ten years from now it will be difficult to persuade the uninformed buyer that the two are the same.
However, the choice is there now for us to make as we see things and whichever is chosen the results photographically will be excellent.
Best regards, John
Posted 01/02/2008 - 16:21
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It's never as clear-cut as we may think. When older items get sold on eBay then the genuine Pentax lenses go for very good prices and the sought after rarer lenses go for sometimes amazing prices. The independent lenses of the same era go for very little and sometimes don't sell at all.
I agree with your comment about lenses John, but in my opinion modern DSLR's are consumers electronics and semi obsolete before they hit the shops.It's never as clear-cut as we may think. When older items get sold on eBay then the genuine Pentax lenses go for very good prices and the sought after rarer lenses go for sometimes amazing prices. The independent lenses of the same era go for very little and sometimes don't sell at all.
If the current trend of a new model every 12-15 months continues and if each new model offers significant improvements, then I can't any 3 year old DSLR being worth very much at all.
Steve
Posted 01/02/2008 - 16:59
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Do you think DSLRs or even digital compacts will ever become collector's items?
I wonder if they will and think that they just might, because they are rather nice bits of engineering, even if they do become obsolete as "users".
I'm not hoarding them though!
I wonder if they will and think that they just might, because they are rather nice bits of engineering, even if they do become obsolete as "users".
I'm not hoarding them though!
Best regards, John
Posted 01/02/2008 - 17:25
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Do you think DSLRs or even digital compacts will ever become collector's items?
For some maybe, but for me personally no. It does not matter how good the engineering inside is, the plastic body just does not do it for me and I say that as a 'ex polymer chemist'. Now if you put the K10 engineering into a LX or Super A body then that would be another matter.Do you think DSLRs or even digital compacts will ever become collector's items?
Steve
Posted 01/02/2008 - 19:13
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Do you think DSLRs or even digital compacts will ever become collector's items?
I wonder if they will and think that they just might, because they are rather nice bits of engineering, even if they do become obsolete as "users".
I'm not hoarding them though!
At least collectors of DSLR's in the future will not have to pay a premium for film (if they can find it) and processing. Stick some batteries in and it'll work straight away, or should. Maybe they will be sought after, but not for a while yet I think. And all that depends on whether the file formats will still be supported in 10, 20, or 30 etc years to come.
Do you think DSLRs or even digital compacts will ever become collector's items?
I wonder if they will and think that they just might, because they are rather nice bits of engineering, even if they do become obsolete as "users".
I'm not hoarding them though!
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
Posted 01/02/2008 - 19:39
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In 30 years time we will be storing images captured by our eyes onto an embedded chip, capable of radio transmission. We will have the ability to display the captured images at will onto room sized panels created from nano particles sprayed via an aerosol .johnriley wrote:
Do you think DSLRs or even digital compacts will ever become collector's items?
I wonder if they will and think that they just might, because they are rather nice bits of engineering, even if they do become obsolete as "users".
I'm not hoarding them though!
At least collectors of DSLR's in the future will not have to pay a premium for film (if they can find it) and processing. Stick some batteries in and it'll work straight away, or should. Maybe they will be sought after, but not for a while yet I think. And all that depends on whether the file formats will still be supported in 10, 20, or 30 etc years to come.Do you think DSLRs or even digital compacts will ever become collector's items?
I wonder if they will and think that they just might, because they are rather nice bits of engineering, even if they do become obsolete as "users".
I'm not hoarding them though!
Pentax will of course supply an image corection technology for our eyes
Posted 01/02/2008 - 21:00
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It's never as clear-cut as we may think. When older items get sold on eBay then the genuine Pentax lenses go for very good prices and the sought after rarer lenses go for sometimes amazing prices. The independent lenses of the same era go for very little and sometimes don't sell at all.
I'm one of the people who avoid older non Pentax lenses. I would buy them if I thought they were nearly as good as Pentax's - but I rarely can find enough (if any) info about them online to get an idea - because the lenses were made in the pre-internet days. (And I don't have access to paper catalogues etc with the specs, let alone any test data).It's never as clear-cut as we may think. When older items get sold on eBay then the genuine Pentax lenses go for very good prices and the sought after rarer lenses go for sometimes amazing prices. The independent lenses of the same era go for very little and sometimes don't sell at all.
Future generations though will have lots of information on the independent lenses of today at their fingertips - so will be able to make a more educated choice. Hopefully that will stop the values of the better models plummeting too much.
However, I accept that the "Pentax" badge is still likely to automatically add some value. But what you buy now is a question of how long-termist you want to be, or can afford to be.
~Pete
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