Pentax K20D
Posted 07/12/2007 - 07:54
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The new sensor will be a Pentax/Samsung sensor - Nikon have the rights to the Sony sensor - they can't even use it in their own Alphas.
The camera has already been discussed under the same title earlier, in the same forum
The camera has already been discussed under the same title earlier, in the same forum
Posted 07/12/2007 - 10:23
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I would be careful with such a post. Lifting words direct from another website without stating the source can be construed as copyright infringement.
Kim
Kim
Posted 07/12/2007 - 11:33
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Just a thought, if this new camera is 14 megapixel would it not make more sense to call it a K14D?
K5, LightRoom 5
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Posted 07/12/2007 - 12:23
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Would that make the K100 a 100Mp camera.
Actually, I would have expected a name such as K5. In the past the lower the number has meant a higher spec camera with Pentax. Think of the Z series where to best spec was the Z1 and the MZ series where the best one was the MZ-3 (I'll ignore the MZ-S, that came later)
Kim
Actually, I would have expected a name such as K5. In the past the lower the number has meant a higher spec camera with Pentax. Think of the Z series where to best spec was the Z1 and the MZ series where the best one was the MZ-3 (I'll ignore the MZ-S, that came later)
Kim
Posted 07/12/2007 - 17:38
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KimC.
You might want look at the direct link above the copy.
I believe that is enough for me not to have to worry about the copyright police banging on my door.
Don't know about you, but I have never heard of anyone getting into trouble over copying and pasting articles on the net. It's done millions of times each day.
RG.
You might want look at the direct link above the copy.
I believe that is enough for me not to have to worry about the copyright police banging on my door.
Don't know about you, but I have never heard of anyone getting into trouble over copying and pasting articles on the net. It's done millions of times each day.
RG.
Posted 07/12/2007 - 20:42
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No the Sigma sensor is a three layered 3.4MP sensor or something of the like. It works differently and isn't really 14MP... It is hard to compare with a bayer pattern CCD or CMOS.
Posted 07/12/2007 - 20:58
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of course, one could fit a larger (say 18 mp) sensor into a digital body, and call it a 14 mp camera.
Why?
well if you only used 14mp central area of a larger 18 mp chip, for creating the images, but also used the remaining outer area of the sensor (possibly with lenses/masks placed over it) for exposure/color balance/noise calculations...
esp with live image preiview, that might be workable and affordable, also if you were buying 18mp sensors for medium format camera bodies that were already obsolete....
lays the design for a full frame model option too if one wanted to keep that door open...
Why?
well if you only used 14mp central area of a larger 18 mp chip, for creating the images, but also used the remaining outer area of the sensor (possibly with lenses/masks placed over it) for exposure/color balance/noise calculations...
esp with live image preiview, that might be workable and affordable, also if you were buying 18mp sensors for medium format camera bodies that were already obsolete....
lays the design for a full frame model option too if one wanted to keep that door open...
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Posted 08/12/2007 - 16:09
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Kim C wrote:
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/02/strobist-terms-of-service.html
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I would be careful with such a post. Lifting words direct from another website without stating the source can be construed as copyright infringement.
I think Strobist about sums up fair use:I would be careful with such a post. Lifting words direct from another website without stating the source can be construed as copyright infringement.
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Strobist is the product of countless hours of hard work and it is very important to me that I protect the value of the original content. Everything you see on Strobist is copyright David Hobby in the year that it was first published. (In the case of third-party contributors, they retain the copyright.) That does not mean that you cannot use material from the site, only that there are a couple of rules.
If you want to link to the articles, that's cool. It's what makes the blog world spin. Feel free to post brief abstracts of the original posts -- the pithier the better. Please limit your verbatim "excerpts" to two or three paragraphs at the most. A prominent link to the original source is required, lest we confuse anyone about the source of the content.
Wholesale cut-and-paste reproductions of entire posts are strictly prohibited and will taken very seriously. That is copyright infringement, plain and simple. This blog is my entire livelihood, and if you are going to jeopardize my family's income, I will come after you.
Strobist is the product of countless hours of hard work and it is very important to me that I protect the value of the original content. Everything you see on Strobist is copyright David Hobby in the year that it was first published. (In the case of third-party contributors, they retain the copyright.) That does not mean that you cannot use material from the site, only that there are a couple of rules.
If you want to link to the articles, that's cool. It's what makes the blog world spin. Feel free to post brief abstracts of the original posts -- the pithier the better. Please limit your verbatim "excerpts" to two or three paragraphs at the most. A prominent link to the original source is required, lest we confuse anyone about the source of the content.
Wholesale cut-and-paste reproductions of entire posts are strictly prohibited and will taken very seriously. That is copyright infringement, plain and simple. This blog is my entire livelihood, and if you are going to jeopardize my family's income, I will come after you.
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/02/strobist-terms-of-service.html
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Posted 08/12/2007 - 16:20
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I think that's a fair comment - I notice that the original post does not have quotation marks either, so we don't know where the quote begins or ends. It also has "smiley" in it - is that in the original or is it added and hence not part of the original.
If it's not accurate I suppose the author might claim he or she was being misrepresented....
It's a tricky world and paying proper attention to copyright issues is definitely recommended. Especially when the whole world can read it...
If it's not accurate I suppose the author might claim he or she was being misrepresented....
It's a tricky world and paying proper attention to copyright issues is definitely recommended. Especially when the whole world can read it...
Best regards, John
Posted 11/12/2007 - 10:54
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[idle_speculation]
14MP?
CMOS?
On-chip NR?
Expanded dynamic range?
FULL FRAME!!??
Could this be it: http://download.cypress.com.edgesuite.net/design_resources/datasheets/contents/ibis4_14000_8.pdf
If it is, then it's an update of the sensor used by Kodak in their SLRs of a few years back. Perhaps Pentax/Samsung have been tweaking it to overcome the 3fps max frame rate - it's not a Sony sensor anyway!
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14MP?
CMOS?
On-chip NR?
Expanded dynamic range?
FULL FRAME!!??
Could this be it: http://download.cypress.com.edgesuite.net/design_resources/datasheets/contents/ibis4_14000_8.pdf
If it is, then it's an update of the sensor used by Kodak in their SLRs of a few years back. Perhaps Pentax/Samsung have been tweaking it to overcome the 3fps max frame rate - it's not a Sony sensor anyway!
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Joining the Q
Posted 12/12/2007 - 10:41
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FULL FRAME!!??
No FF lenses in the Pentax Road Map.
FULL FRAME!!??
Posted 12/12/2007 - 15:05
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No FF lenses in the Pentax Road Map.
Very true, however, the Pentax Road Map predates Pentax's purchase by Hoya, so while I'm in the mood for idle speculation I'd add the following:No FF lenses in the Pentax Road Map.
Hoya are (essentially) a glass foundry. Glass foundries need to sell glass to make money. FF lenses use more glass than DA ones. FF lenses are more profitable (to a glass seller) than DA ones.
Taken in isolation this proves nothing, however, I for one wouldn't be totally taken aback if the Pentax Road Map was replaced by a snazzy new Pentax Satellite Navigation System in the new year...
Joining the Q
Posted 14/12/2007 - 11:57
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Having just looked at the "current" lens road map, it still shows a lens for the now canceled 645D!
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http://stock-photo.blogspot.com/2007/11/pentax-k20d-on-show-at-pma-2008.html
Thursday, November 29, 2007
Pentax K20D on show at PMA 2008
Pentax K20D is coming and according to sources will be on display at the PMA 2008 show. The announcement of the 14 megapixel dslr together with the K200 is expected at january 24 2008.
The Pentax k20D has a 14 megapixel Pentax proprietary cmos sensor, 3 inch screen of the same type seen on Nikon models, live view, revamped anti shake, and it also seems a new file format in addition to the PEF, DNG and jpeg presently in the K10D. We can only assume it may be a uncompressed raw format.
The sensor itself is stirring a lot of comments at photo forums. This would be Pentax first sensor, but building a sensor demands huge resources and a foundry. Such an undertaking in secret is very doubtful and most seem to agree that the "Pentax sensor" must be a licensed 3:rd party product.
Sony does not have a 14 megapixel sensor so it may come as a surprise to some about who is working with Pentax in this regard, you will just have to wait and see
Pentax management outlined in March 2007 the direction of Pentax DSLR products and declared that consecutive models would offer true upgrades and not just reworked models (like the *ist that had numerous versions on the market)
The K20d may use the same body as the present K10d but the difference in specifications will be so big that this truly is a new model - it is not a K10d mkII. If for nothing else, just the new sensor merits a new model name.
Expect a starting price at around 1400 us$. Pentax is starting to look like a serious playter. the only backwash is the lens market that is still weaker on choice that the other brands. This has in part to do with the cooperation between Tokina and Pentax. As a direct result, some 3-party models are unfortunately not available in Pentax mount. However - it seems that the new Tamron 70 - 200 2.8 will also have pentax mount. Very good news indeed as this lens is a stellar performer - and lightweight. More on that later.
Stay tuned for more news on Pentax K20D and the K200 (that will have the 10 megapixel sensor).