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aminstar
Posted 16/10/2011 - 20:37 Link
DrOrloff wrote:
I'd be happy to answer your questions if you could put them in a civil manner and I have discussed the set up in other threads but actually I can't be bothered to respond to that continually aggressive tone.

Dr Orloff, I take it you have upgraded your moon shot taking gear now after this one?
DrOrloff
Posted 16/10/2011 - 21:09 Link
Not really. Because that Moon was close to full there wasn't much detail to be had. The fuller the Moon gets the more flat and washed out it looks. But I've just been having a play and I know think I can do much better than I have up to now. The pp makes a huge difference too and I keep making improvements so that one could be a lot better.
ChrisA
Posted 16/10/2011 - 21:21 Link
DrOrloff wrote:
I'd be happy to answer your questions if you could put them in a civil manner and I have discussed the set up in other threads but actually I can't be bothered to respond to that continually aggressive tone.

You might not like my tone, but suggesting that there's actually any aggression in what I said is simply ludicrous, but let me put it plainly.

If you want to say thanks, say thanks.

If you say thanks, but at the same time post a fantastic image, clearly fifty times better than the rest that have been posted, without giving the slightest hint of anything that would help the community, the obvious inference is that you're showcasing.

Showcasing is fine in the gallery. It's also fine if, by showing what you've done, it also contributes something and allows the community to benefit.

But by saying "here's my image, it's obviously miles better than any of the rest around here, and if you want any more information about it, go and search", is not quite the same.

If you think that's 'aggressive', then I'm sorry. I'm just trying to speak plainly. Obviously, it's just my opinion, and you're free to disagree. That's one of the great things about a forum. People are free to express opinions, and others are free to agree or disagree, and take whatever they like from what they read.

Thanks for posting your image - it certainly gives us something to aspire to.
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Edited by ChrisA: 16/10/2011 - 21:27
greynolds999
Posted 16/10/2011 - 21:27 Link
Does anyone else know what this argument is about?
johnriley
Posted 16/10/2011 - 21:28 Link
No idea, but let's stop it there and get back on topic please.
Best regards, John
aminstar
Posted 16/10/2011 - 21:38 Link
The topic is "Moon shot" and taking better shots of it
ChrisA
Posted 16/10/2011 - 21:41 Link
ChrisA wrote:
People are free to express opinions, and others are free to agree or disagree, and take whatever they like from what they read.

johnriley wrote:
No idea, but let's stop it there and get back on topic please.

Oops, spoke too soon.

John, my opinion is that on a C&C thread, it's nice for contributors to make posts that help the community. I'm not insisting that anyone agrees or disagrees with that opinion, I'm just expressing it. I'm not making threats, or using foul language.

Please don't tell me this is inappropriate?
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johnriley
Posted 16/10/2011 - 21:55 Link
Civility costs nothing Chris.
Best regards, John
Blythman
Posted 16/10/2011 - 22:00 Link
Hope Chris isn't suggesting that French moons are miles better than Northumberland moons.

Geordie, processing aside, I wouldn't have put the teleconvertor on the Siggy 150-500. I'd have just pulled baxk to about 460mm, stepped down to f8 or f11 amd cropped the image.

As to Dr. O showcasing. I added him as a flickr contact, and I see the edit after edit he does of his images, as he strives for improvements. He doesn't add the final versions into numerous groups (unlike me :blush so he's hardly looking to showcase on there or looking to get his ego massaged. In my view the suggestion that he does so on here is complete and utter rubbish
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ChrisA
Posted 16/10/2011 - 22:04 Link
johnriley wrote:
Civility costs nothing Chris.

I'm not clear how you think I'm being uncivil.

It struck me that the stated purpose of Dr Orloff's post was a little disingenuous. I may be wrong, or I may not. I expressed an opinion, based on the impression I gained, to the effect that blatant showcasing on a C&C thread, giving nothing back, is a little 'off'.

That's all. I'm not sure how that's uncivil. I'm just getting the impression that I'm a bit of a soft target here, since I've had the temerity to stick my head above the parapet.
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Edited by ChrisA: 16/10/2011 - 22:06
ChrisA
Posted 16/10/2011 - 22:11 Link
Blythman wrote:
Hope Chris isn't suggesting that French moons are miles better than Northumberland moons.

Well it clearly is in this case - it's a fantastic image, and I wouldn't dream of taking anything away from it.

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As to Dr. O showcasing. I added him as a flickr contact, and I see the edit after edit he does of his images, as he strives for improvements. He doesn't add the final versions into numerous groups (unlike me :blush so he's hardly looking to showcase on there or looking to get his ego massaged. In my view the suggestion that he does so on here is complete and utter rubbish

Well fair enough. I don't know anything about any Flickr groups, I was just calling it like I saw it. I take exception to being accused of aggression (not by you, I hasten to add!!) - people get too angry at the drop of a hat these days.
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Edited by ChrisA: 16/10/2011 - 22:11
aminstar
Posted 17/10/2011 - 10:57 Link
Blythman wrote:


Geordie, processing aside, I wouldn't have put the teleconvertor on the Siggy 150-500. I'd have just pulled baxk to about 460mm, stepped down to f8 or f11 amd cropped the image.


You would have had a definitely better IQ without the TC
DanielH
Posted 17/10/2011 - 11:12 Link
Well a second opinion it did seem pretty aggressive to me and im not suprised that Dr O responded in the way he did. Tone of voice is very hard to convey on a forum and we should give a little thought to the effect our words might have before posting. Dan btw nobody is shooting you down
ChrisA
Posted 17/10/2011 - 12:03 Link
dannyh wrote:
Well a second opinion it did seem pretty aggressive to me and im not suprised that Dr O responded in the way he did. Tone of voice is very hard to convey on a forum and we should give a little thought to the effect our words might have before posting. Dan btw nobody is shooting you down

I was certainly not intending to be aggressive - if that's how I came across then I apologise. I tried to explain how it had appeared to me in plain terms, nothing more.
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DanielH
Posted 17/10/2011 - 12:11 Link
thats cool then. Be great if you could take a look at my moon shot in my gallery its not very good only had 50-200da spot metered cropped contrast sharpening and 2nd layer of clouds in pp (i dont have photoshop) ta Dan

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