New Walkabout lens recommendation

Mongoose
Posted 02/04/2008 - 15:01 Link
I would be surprised if they go to low end bodies without the screw drive in the next year or so.

This is because the low end bodies tend to be the smallest, and therefore pair well to the screw driven Limited pancakes.

Also even once the 17-70 comes out there will be very few SDM lenses available, and almost all of them will be very expensive.

If they want to drop screw drive support from the cameras, they'll need to build up a decent range of inexpensive SDM lenses, at least covering the typical newbie range of ~18-200.
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rparmar
Posted 02/04/2008 - 15:35 Link
I notice a couple other new lenses on the roadmap have SDM, like the 50mm replacement. Not sure if it's a good thing that these drop the screw drive. backwards compatibility is one of the things Pentax has been known for.
iceblinker
Posted 02/04/2008 - 15:50 Link
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Is the Mark II really that much better than the original? I'd be interested to read more about that.
My mark II is sharper at the borders than my mark I (which I have now sold). Sorry I didn't keep copies of my test pics. Hopefully there will be some professional reviews soon.

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I find it hard to understand why there even is a 18-55mm Mark II when the upcoming zoom looks like a better kit option.
The 18-55 II is still a cheap lens to manufacture so it keeps the price of the kit down. I'm not sure the average punter would appreciate the value of a better lens enough when comparing the price of the whole kit to the competition's. Also it's nice to have such a compact lightweight option.
~Pete
George Lazarette
Posted 02/04/2008 - 22:22 Link
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George Lazarette wrote:
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The "internet effect" has put me off the 16-50 completley. I have the 16-45 so I'm not too worried.
I don't let nitwits on DPReview make decisions for me.

G
So I'll just ignore what you've just said then George ?

I may be a nitwit, but I'm not on DPReview.

G
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George Lazarette
Posted 02/04/2008 - 22:27 Link
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I notice a couple other new lenses on the roadmap have SDM, like the 50mm replacement. Not sure if it's a good thing that these drop the screw drive. backwards compatibility is one of the things Pentax has been known for.
Have I missed something? Are you saying that these lenses won't work with non-SDM bodies?

G
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Daniel Bridge
Posted 02/04/2008 - 23:32 Link
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Fair enough, but I have a difficult time ignoring the more enlightened folk at Photozone...
Just had a look there, couldn't see any mention of the 16-50. Is there a review of it on there?

Dan
K-3, a macro lens and a DA*300mm...
Daniel Bridge
Posted 02/04/2008 - 23:33 Link
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I notice a couple other new lenses on the roadmap have SDM, like the 50mm replacement. Not sure if it's a good thing that these drop the screw drive. backwards compatibility is one of the things Pentax has been known for.
So far all the SDM lenses work with the screw AF drive, how do you know it won't be the case in the future?

Dan
K-3, a macro lens and a DA*300mm...
rparmar
Posted 03/04/2008 - 02:44 Link
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So far all the SDM lenses work with the screw AF drive, how do you know it won't be the case in the future?
The info on this lens has been leaked:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/205348-post47.html

Nice food too.
iceblinker
Posted 03/04/2008 - 11:09 Link
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rparmar wrote:
Fair enough, but I have a difficult time ignoring the more enlightened folk at Photozone...
Just had a look there, couldn't see any mention of the 16-50. Is there a review of it on there?
No. The nearest, I think, is the Nikon fit of the Tokina version: http://tinyurl.com/2waxtm
~Pete
George Lazarette
Posted 03/04/2008 - 20:54 Link
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Daniel Bridge wrote:
So far all the SDM lenses work with the screw AF drive, how do you know it won't be the case in the future?
The info on this lens has been leaked:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/205348-post47.html

Nice food too.
If that's true, I'm astonished.

G
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Pwynnej
Posted 03/04/2008 - 21:40 Link
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Daniel Bridge wrote:
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Fair enough, but I have a difficult time ignoring the more enlightened folk at Photozone...
Just had a look there, couldn't see any mention of the 16-50. Is there a review of it on there?
No. The nearest, I think, is the Nikon fit of the Tokina version: http://tinyurl.com/2waxtm
I think they did test one but the lens was a duff example I hear, so they opted not to report the findings until they had a better lens to try....

that's what I heard...
rparmar
Posted 04/04/2008 - 10:18 Link
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I think they did test one but the lens was a duff example I hear, so they opted not to report the findings until they had a better lens to try....
Yes, I think Photozone had difficulty finding a good DA* 16-50mm, same as other folk. The info is buried in their forums, which I don't read that often.

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If that's true, I'm astonished.
The info on the 17-70mm was repeated from at least one other source. I guess removing the screw drive saves manufacturing costs and only affects compatibility with older bodies. All of a sudden the K100D Super makes a lot more sense. I always wondered why it was worth releasing an entire new model with what would appear to be very modest upgrades.

But yes, I'm still hoping that it is not true!

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