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Posted 16/05/2013 - 23:14
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I think it has been tried. I've seen shots using the 18-55mm kit lens on film, possibly on the other site, it vignettes towards the wide end but from 30mm or so it was suggested that the vignetting wasn't apparent.
But then some people like vignetting........
But then some people like vignetting........
K5, K200 and several film Pentax cameras!
Posted 17/05/2013 - 06:29
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Jetsam1 wrote:
I think it has been tried. I've seen shots using the 18-55mm kit lens on film, possibly on the other site, it vignettes towards the wide end but from 30mm or so it was suggested that the vignetting wasn't apparent.
But then some people like vignetting........
No, the poost was on here and I should know... LINKI think it has been tried. I've seen shots using the 18-55mm kit lens on film, possibly on the other site, it vignettes towards the wide end but from 30mm or so it was suggested that the vignetting wasn't apparent.
But then some people like vignetting........
As I say on the second page, 24mm upwards is fine. And that was on a late model P30.
Cheers, HG
K110+DA40, K200+DA35, K3 and a bag of lenses, bodies and other bits.
Mustn't forget the Zenits, or folders, or...
PPG entries.
K110+DA40, K200+DA35, K3 and a bag of lenses, bodies and other bits.
Mustn't forget the Zenits, or folders, or...
PPG entries.
Posted 17/05/2013 - 07:06
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Hi, that's all very interesting and useful info. I look forward to trying it out.
Deryn
Deryn
Posted 17/05/2013 - 08:52
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Hardgravity wrote:
As I say on the second page, 24mm upwards is fine. And that was on a late model P30.
Knew I'd seen it somewhere! Good to know actually for some experimentation.... Sorry I forgot who had done it!
Jetsam1 wrote:
I think it has been tried. I've seen shots using the 18-55mm kit lens on film, possibly on the other site, it vignettes towards the wide end but from 30mm or so it was suggested that the vignetting wasn't apparent.
But then some people like vignetting........
No, the poost was on here and I should know... LINKI think it has been tried. I've seen shots using the 18-55mm kit lens on film, possibly on the other site, it vignettes towards the wide end but from 30mm or so it was suggested that the vignetting wasn't apparent.
But then some people like vignetting........
As I say on the second page, 24mm upwards is fine. And that was on a late model P30.
K5, K200 and several film Pentax cameras!
Posted 17/05/2013 - 09:06
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I experimented with an MZ-10 and the 18-55 a few years back. I concur, after 24mm results were very acceptable. With the MZ-10 having body aperture control it all worked great.
Posted 19/05/2013 - 21:51
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Hi all, managed to take some photos today. I think they will turn out okay. The number of times I held the camera up to check the image on the rear screen!
I used a 50mm 1.7 to take some portraits of my wife. I was struggling in the bright light with iSO400 film to get the speed down from 1000. I eventually realised that I could close the lens aperture down a bit to lower the speed. So my first photos might be over exposed I think.
I could have done more with a longer lens I think to get further away and to lessen distortion. I will get a longer lens but not just now. (that's another story!)
Thanks for the help so far.
Deryn
I used a 50mm 1.7 to take some portraits of my wife. I was struggling in the bright light with iSO400 film to get the speed down from 1000. I eventually realised that I could close the lens aperture down a bit to lower the speed. So my first photos might be over exposed I think.
I could have done more with a longer lens I think to get further away and to lessen distortion. I will get a longer lens but not just now. (that's another story!)
Thanks for the help so far.
Deryn
Posted 27/05/2013 - 13:03
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Hi again, I saw some photos that were obviously double exposures. They looked contrived (I think that's the word, meaning planned). They also looked quite good.
When using film can you actually double expose a film deliberately for effect?
Deryn
When using film can you actually double expose a film deliberately for effect?
Deryn
Posted 27/05/2013 - 14:15
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You can but it is tricky although the 645 had a button to press which allowed this.
On a film camera the trick is this, with the film wound on and the shutter cocked turn the rewind knob to fully tension the film. Then, take the first exposure and press in the rewind button on the baseplate, firmly hold the rewind knob with your left thumb and wind on with your right thumb; the shutter will cock but the film won't advance. Make the second exposure.
Ideally you should design the image so that the highlights of one exposure are happening in the shadows of the other.
Google Sam Haskins, a Pentax user who was a master of this as well as sandwiching two transparencies, trick here is to flip one of them so that they are sandwiched emulsion to emulsion.
Have fun and much frustration! It would of course be so much easier to scan the frames and do it all in photoshop
On a film camera the trick is this, with the film wound on and the shutter cocked turn the rewind knob to fully tension the film. Then, take the first exposure and press in the rewind button on the baseplate, firmly hold the rewind knob with your left thumb and wind on with your right thumb; the shutter will cock but the film won't advance. Make the second exposure.
Ideally you should design the image so that the highlights of one exposure are happening in the shadows of the other.
Google Sam Haskins, a Pentax user who was a master of this as well as sandwiching two transparencies, trick here is to flip one of them so that they are sandwiched emulsion to emulsion.
Have fun and much frustration! It would of course be so much easier to scan the frames and do it all in photoshop
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Posted 27/05/2013 - 14:45
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Thanks Ken, sounds like I would need 3 hands! Still, it sounds possible and more fun than photoshop.
Looked up Sam Haskins and quite impressed. A raised eyebrow from my wife sitting next to me as I flipped through his work on my laptop. 'Forget it,' she said. 'Find yourself a model.'
Deryn
Looked up Sam Haskins and quite impressed. A raised eyebrow from my wife sitting next to me as I flipped through his work on my laptop. 'Forget it,' she said. 'Find yourself a model.'
Deryn
Posted 27/05/2013 - 16:02
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My neighbour across the street was one of the models when she was just sixteen, it is one of the famous apple shots but tbh I'm not sure which one. The only reason I know was that one day she remarked on me using a Pentax ,'the best camera in the world' she said. I asked her how she knew and said that Sam Haskins had told her. I was mightily impressed.
She had no idea who he was at the time, his Pentax calendars from the 70s are very collectible
She had no idea who he was at the time, his Pentax calendars from the 70s are very collectible
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Posted 27/05/2013 - 18:14
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At risk of diverting the thread, The Pentax Caledars are here link
It is incredibly generous that some images are provided to download for our own personal use.
It is incredibly generous that some images are provided to download for our own personal use.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
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