NEW TO FILM.

johnha
Posted 16/05/2013 - 22:28 Link
The P30n will only work in program mode with DA lenses (you need an aperture ring to select either Aperture Priority or Manual) and you can't vary the combination. They will vignette (especially with a hood fitted), although you might get away with longer focal lengths to some degree.
Jetsam1
Posted 16/05/2013 - 23:14 Link
I think it has been tried. I've seen shots using the 18-55mm kit lens on film, possibly on the other site, it vignettes towards the wide end but from 30mm or so it was suggested that the vignetting wasn't apparent.

But then some people like vignetting........
K5, K200 and several film Pentax cameras!
Hardgravity
Posted 17/05/2013 - 06:29 Link
Jetsam1 wrote:
I think it has been tried. I've seen shots using the 18-55mm kit lens on film, possibly on the other site, it vignettes towards the wide end but from 30mm or so it was suggested that the vignetting wasn't apparent.

But then some people like vignetting........
No, the poost was on here and I should know... LINK

As I say on the second page, 24mm upwards is fine. And that was on a late model P30.
Cheers, HG

K110+DA40, K200+DA35, K3 and a bag of lenses, bodies and other bits.

Mustn't forget the Zenits, or folders, or...

PPG entries.
DERYN
Posted 17/05/2013 - 07:06 Link
Hi, that's all very interesting and useful info. I look forward to trying it out.

Deryn
Jetsam1
Posted 17/05/2013 - 08:52 Link
Hardgravity wrote:
Jetsam1 wrote:
I think it has been tried. I've seen shots using the 18-55mm kit lens on film, possibly on the other site, it vignettes towards the wide end but from 30mm or so it was suggested that the vignetting wasn't apparent.

But then some people like vignetting........
No, the poost was on here and I should know... LINK

As I say on the second page, 24mm upwards is fine. And that was on a late model P30.
Knew I'd seen it somewhere! Good to know actually for some experimentation.... Sorry I forgot who had done it!
K5, K200 and several film Pentax cameras!
Snootchies
Posted 17/05/2013 - 09:06 Link
I experimented with an MZ-10 and the 18-55 a few years back. I concur, after 24mm results were very acceptable. With the MZ-10 having body aperture control it all worked great.
Bob

My website (Hadfield Photography)

Pentax Gallery Artist page:link

Flickr Photostream: link
DERYN
Posted 19/05/2013 - 21:51 Link
Hi all, managed to take some photos today. I think they will turn out okay. The number of times I held the camera up to check the image on the rear screen!

I used a 50mm 1.7 to take some portraits of my wife. I was struggling in the bright light with iSO400 film to get the speed down from 1000. I eventually realised that I could close the lens aperture down a bit to lower the speed. So my first photos might be over exposed I think.

I could have done more with a longer lens I think to get further away and to lessen distortion. I will get a longer lens but not just now. (that's another story!)

Thanks for the help so far.

Deryn
DERYN
Posted 27/05/2013 - 13:03 Link
Hi again, I saw some photos that were obviously double exposures. They looked contrived (I think that's the word, meaning planned). They also looked quite good.

When using film can you actually double expose a film deliberately for effect?

Deryn
gartmore
Posted 27/05/2013 - 14:15 Link
You can but it is tricky although the 645 had a button to press which allowed this.

On a film camera the trick is this, with the film wound on and the shutter cocked turn the rewind knob to fully tension the film. Then, take the first exposure and press in the rewind button on the baseplate, firmly hold the rewind knob with your left thumb and wind on with your right thumb; the shutter will cock but the film won't advance. Make the second exposure.

Ideally you should design the image so that the highlights of one exposure are happening in the shadows of the other.

Google Sam Haskins, a Pentax user who was a master of this as well as sandwiching two transparencies, trick here is to flip one of them so that they are sandwiched emulsion to emulsion.

Have fun and much frustration! It would of course be so much easier to scan the frames and do it all in photoshop
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
DERYN
Posted 27/05/2013 - 14:45 Link
Thanks Ken, sounds like I would need 3 hands! Still, it sounds possible and more fun than photoshop.

Looked up Sam Haskins and quite impressed. A raised eyebrow from my wife sitting next to me as I flipped through his work on my laptop. 'Forget it,' she said. 'Find yourself a model.'

Deryn
Edited by DERYN: 27/05/2013 - 14:45
gartmore
Posted 27/05/2013 - 16:02 Link
My neighbour across the street was one of the models when she was just sixteen, it is one of the famous apple shots but tbh I'm not sure which one. The only reason I know was that one day she remarked on me using a Pentax ,'the best camera in the world' she said. I asked her how she knew and said that Sam Haskins had told her. I was mightily impressed.

She had no idea who he was at the time, his Pentax calendars from the 70s are very collectible
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Edited by gartmore: 27/05/2013 - 16:04
johnha
Posted 27/05/2013 - 16:11 Link
One of my Ebay purchases came with some old Pentax Club documentation, among it was a leaflet advertising his '83 Calendar, and the ME Super Book of Photography (£5.95 + p&p) and the BJP LX book (£3.50 including p&p).

John.
Edited by johnha: 27/05/2013 - 16:13
gartmore
Posted 27/05/2013 - 18:14 Link
At risk of diverting the thread, The Pentax Caledars are here link

It is incredibly generous that some images are provided to download for our own personal use.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -

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