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Posted 17/05/2010 - 09:48
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John, Dell have a couple of IPS panels. Just enter "IPS LCD" in the search box. The 2209WA pops up at £316.08 - which is pretty decent.
I have a LaCie 120 which has been very good when calibrated with Argyll+DispCalGUI+Spyder. The LaCie definitely needs to be used in subdued lighting, and has to date been a good match for printed material (i.e. when getting prints done from ProAM).
It hasn't been so good for web-based stuff as most people view images at a much brighter level. The iMac has been better for seeing shadow detail (again calibrated, but left at native white point).
HTH!
Matt
I have a LaCie 120 which has been very good when calibrated with Argyll+DispCalGUI+Spyder. The LaCie definitely needs to be used in subdued lighting, and has to date been a good match for printed material (i.e. when getting prints done from ProAM).
It hasn't been so good for web-based stuff as most people view images at a much brighter level. The iMac has been better for seeing shadow detail (again calibrated, but left at native white point).
HTH!
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Posted 17/05/2010 - 10:31
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I got an HP LP2275w last year and have been very pleased with it, moving from a decent Samsung CRT.
Or Matt's suggestion is only £247 at Ebuyer. Or with a silver case for just £223!
Dan
Or Matt's suggestion is only £247 at Ebuyer. Or with a silver case for just £223!
Dan
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Posted 17/05/2010 - 10:50
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I wrote that in some other threads. For photo work completely ignore TN pannels.
In general Eizo and NEC is the first choice when looking for quality pannel, then comes the rest, of course price for these two will be higher as well (rumor says that some Lacie models are just a rebranded NEC).
Type of pannel is a one thing, second you would like to have is LUT longer than 8 bits (TN usually are 6, 8 ), so look for LUT 10 or 12 bit long.
What pannel size are you after?. Remember that with LCD you really should use it in its native resolution (what means that your graphics card must support it), you don't want to buy a big one (with higher native resolution) and later find that i.e. your graphics card doesn't support that resolution.
In general Eizo and NEC is the first choice when looking for quality pannel, then comes the rest, of course price for these two will be higher as well (rumor says that some Lacie models are just a rebranded NEC).
Type of pannel is a one thing, second you would like to have is LUT longer than 8 bits (TN usually are 6, 8 ), so look for LUT 10 or 12 bit long.
What pannel size are you after?. Remember that with LCD you really should use it in its native resolution (what means that your graphics card must support it), you don't want to buy a big one (with higher native resolution) and later find that i.e. your graphics card doesn't support that resolution.
Posted 17/05/2010 - 12:46
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22" or 24" and the graphics card is new and capable of supporting full HD resolution.
Best regards, John
Posted 17/05/2010 - 13:43
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I use the Dell 2209WA, I'm very impressed - it's far better than my previous TN panel. It can be a little tricky to calibrate the first time as it's quite bright by default, once you've got the hang of it though it's straightforward
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Posted 17/05/2010 - 13:43
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MattMatic wrote:
John, Dell have a couple of IPS panels. Just enter "IPS LCD" in the search box. The 2209WA pops up at £316.08 - which is pretty decent.
I don’t know if these are out yet in the UK, but there was a recent report in the US of new Dell IPS models becoming available. If not it might be worth waiting for UK pricing on these:John, Dell have a couple of IPS panels. Just enter "IPS LCD" in the search box. The 2209WA pops up at £316.08 - which is pretty decent.
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Latest Dell IPS displays cost $279, $299
by Cyril Kowaliski — 5:04 PM on May 13, 2010
After the deluge of low-quality TN displays that has flooded the these past five years or so, IPS panel technology is clearly making a comeback. Dell has now accelerated that comeback by introducing two new IPS-based UltraSharp displays, both with price tags under $300.
The 21.5" UltraSharp U221H is the cheapest of the two at $279, but the 23" UltraSharp U2311H only costs an extra $20. These monitors have many shared specifications, including 1920x1080 display resolutions, 1000:1 contrast ratios, 8-ms gray-to-gray response times, 178° viewing angles, sRGB color gamuts, and both DVI and DisplayPort connectivity.
Other than the panel sizes, Dell's spec sheets show one other major difference between the two panels: luminosity. The U221H is rated for 300 cd/m², but Dell says the larger U2311H only does 250 cd/m².
This isn't the first time we've seen an affordable 23" IPS monitor. NEC's EA231WWI has been available for some time, and Newegg sells it for $359.99 right now. That display and the cheaper U2311H have similar specs, although as far as we're aware, Dell is the only one to offer a zero-bright-pixel guarantee as standard. (Thanks to Engadget for the tip.)
Source: The Tech Report
Latest Dell IPS displays cost $279, $299
by Cyril Kowaliski — 5:04 PM on May 13, 2010
After the deluge of low-quality TN displays that has flooded the these past five years or so, IPS panel technology is clearly making a comeback. Dell has now accelerated that comeback by introducing two new IPS-based UltraSharp displays, both with price tags under $300.
The 21.5" UltraSharp U221H is the cheapest of the two at $279, but the 23" UltraSharp U2311H only costs an extra $20. These monitors have many shared specifications, including 1920x1080 display resolutions, 1000:1 contrast ratios, 8-ms gray-to-gray response times, 178° viewing angles, sRGB color gamuts, and both DVI and DisplayPort connectivity.
Other than the panel sizes, Dell's spec sheets show one other major difference between the two panels: luminosity. The U221H is rated for 300 cd/m², but Dell says the larger U2311H only does 250 cd/m².
This isn't the first time we've seen an affordable 23" IPS monitor. NEC's EA231WWI has been available for some time, and Newegg sells it for $359.99 right now. That display and the cheaper U2311H have similar specs, although as far as we're aware, Dell is the only one to offer a zero-bright-pixel guarantee as standard. (Thanks to Engadget for the tip.)
Source: The Tech Report
Posted 17/05/2010 - 15:50
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Hi John
I can recommend the HP 2475 24" wide-screen (1920 x 1200). link
The 22" version is slightly lower resolution (1680 x 1050) but cheaper link
Both are SIPS panels, both need calibration, the default settings are inaccurate (as with almost anything!).
I've used the LP2075 (20.1" 4x3 ratio, 1600 x 1200) for 3 years now and it's been faultless and the calibration accuracy hold over time has been very accurate.
I can recommend the HP 2475 24" wide-screen (1920 x 1200). link
The 22" version is slightly lower resolution (1680 x 1050) but cheaper link
Both are SIPS panels, both need calibration, the default settings are inaccurate (as with almost anything!).
I've used the LP2075 (20.1" 4x3 ratio, 1600 x 1200) for 3 years now and it's been faultless and the calibration accuracy hold over time has been very accurate.
Posted 17/05/2010 - 15:52
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The HP LP2275W looks like a great screen for the money.
I'm curious though, why is IPS better then PVA?
Eizo for example use PVA screens in their high-end monitors
I'm curious though, why is IPS better then PVA?
Eizo for example use PVA screens in their high-end monitors
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Posted 17/05/2010 - 15:53
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Thanks Richard, I've added that info to my list as well.
Best regards, John
Posted 17/05/2010 - 15:57
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Richard, the 22" LP2275w says it's a PVA panel, whereas the LP2475w is S-IPS
Matt
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Posted 17/05/2010 - 16:20
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MattMatic wrote:
Richard, the 22" LP2275w says it's a PVA panel, whereas the LP2475w is S-IPS
Matt
Yes that's right the LP2275w is an S-PVA screen Dan linked to a review about it. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hp_lp2275w.htmRichard, the 22" LP2275w says it's a PVA panel, whereas the LP2475w is S-IPS
Matt
Here is an review about the LP2475w http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hp_lp2475w.htm
The new HP ZR24W http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hp_zr24w.htm
ps. it seems the LP2275w has the widest colour space.
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The conclusion seems to be that the order of desireablility for photographic use is IPS, followed by PVA and with humble TN panels trailing last. Having said that, TN panels are useable, but the angle of view problem means a lot of care is needed.
NEC make some brilliant IPS panels at over £1000, so that's nice but out of the question, so I'm looking for some good but more realistic suggestions for specific models.
Ideas please, plus links if you can?