Metz goes pop in wedding
Posted 16/11/2009 - 20:18
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Some electronic components do have a shelf life, especially old capacitors. One failing would produce the pop you describe.
You should hear a big one let go
You should hear a big one let go
Posted 16/11/2009 - 20:24
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The flash went on to recharge, so I think the capacitors are OK.
I've just been trying to locate a tube supplier in case Metz won't replace it for free. It seems a pretty short life span (just over a year of amateur use)
I've just been trying to locate a tube supplier in case Metz won't replace it for free. It seems a pretty short life span (just over a year of amateur use)
Posted 16/11/2009 - 21:06
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Sorry Mark - just had a dig around the suppliers I normally use (RS, Farnell etc) and no joy.
One thing in case you are unaware, flashes can give you a nasty electric shock.
One thing in case you are unaware, flashes can give you a nasty electric shock.
Posted 16/11/2009 - 22:03
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Studio flash units tend to have great big capacitors in them, and when one goes, it takes the others with it, like dominos. Bang, bang, bang, bang. A bit like Beirut.
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Posted 17/11/2009 - 10:27
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I have had a Metz 45CT1 since the 1970's and never had any trouble-- it still works-- also, I have several Braun Hobby Units from the 1950's some rescued from a photographer who was going to dump them and some others given and they all work (mains only-- the acid accumulators have long since dried up ! ) I have a Bowens Monolite 400 bought for £50 and the tube is still good.
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Taken the PLUNGE - BUT FILM STILL RULES !!!
Posted 17/11/2009 - 10:33
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Thanks Peter, that was what I was thinking and the lack of replacement tube suppliers tends to bare this out
I still haven't got to the bottom of what went wrong and I can't remember who I bought it off! but I'll keep you all informed when I know a little more.
I still haven't got to the bottom of what went wrong and I can't remember who I bought it off! but I'll keep you all informed when I know a little more.
Posted 17/11/2009 - 11:06
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It's much more likely to be a capacitor than the flash tube.
There was a batch of dodgy chineese capacitors that worked their way into all sorts of electronic goods a few years back so that may well be part of the problem. If the flashgun is out of warranty it may be worth taking it apart and having a look. It should be quite obvious if it was one of these dodgy electrolytic capacitors. It will either have exploded leaving "stuff" everywhere or will have a noticably bulged end or ends of the capacitor( they should be flat).
Or you could contact Metz and see if they'll come to an arrangenemt!
There was a batch of dodgy chineese capacitors that worked their way into all sorts of electronic goods a few years back so that may well be part of the problem. If the flashgun is out of warranty it may be worth taking it apart and having a look. It should be quite obvious if it was one of these dodgy electrolytic capacitors. It will either have exploded leaving "stuff" everywhere or will have a noticably bulged end or ends of the capacitor( they should be flat).
Or you could contact Metz and see if they'll come to an arrangenemt!
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Posted 17/11/2009 - 11:28
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We've had 2x Metz 58s go faulty with the zoom error. In both cases an instant no quibble swap at SRS.
With it going pop after just over a year, I would think you have a case under the Sale Of Goods Act 1974 as not being fit for purpose. A lot of users on here are quite happily using 10-20 year old flash guns, so I think that's the route you should go down if your supplier won't take it in straight away for repair.
With it going pop after just over a year, I would think you have a case under the Sale Of Goods Act 1974 as not being fit for purpose. A lot of users on here are quite happily using 10-20 year old flash guns, so I think that's the route you should go down if your supplier won't take it in straight away for repair.
Posted 17/11/2009 - 11:34
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Darkmunk wrote:
Then while they were eating, I took off on my motorbike and found a pentax 360 fgz which I was quite impressed with
Okay, my imagination is running riot with this sentence! How did you just manage to 'find' a pentax 360 Just found one someone had dropped? Mug a passer by? Miraculously find a camera shop stocking pentax flashes near your wedding venue?
Then while they were eating, I took off on my motorbike and found a pentax 360 fgz which I was quite impressed with
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Posted 17/11/2009 - 11:52
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Ah... yes, I guess that was an odd way of putting it.
The friend who was lending me the ist (which didn't work) also had a flash, so I had to tear off and find her parent's house.
Despite the appalling weather, I had decided to leave the studio gear at the venue then use the motorbike to get around in front of the bride. It was a good decision, and turned out to be fun too
The friend who was lending me the ist (which didn't work) also had a flash, so I had to tear off and find her parent's house.
Despite the appalling weather, I had decided to leave the studio gear at the venue then use the motorbike to get around in front of the bride. It was a good decision, and turned out to be fun too
Posted 17/11/2009 - 12:19
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Ah okay, I see. That's much less exciting
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Stuff - Metz 58 AF1, Cactus v4, Nikon SB24, Raynox 150, Sigma 1.4x TC, Sigma 2x TC, Kenko 2x macro TC, Redsnapper 283 tripod, iMac 27”, Macbook Pro 17”, iPad, iPhone 3G
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first, my backup ist stopped working so I had to borrow an Olympus, then in the middle of the speeches my Metz 58 went pop, like a party popper right in the middle of the best man's speech
I managed to get by with the on-board flash on the K10, and the Olly just kept snapping away on auto if I found myself with the wrong lens.
Then while they were eating, I took off on my motorbike and found a pentax 360 fgz which I was quite impressed with, but I took quite a few duff shots before I realised how to get it onto manual and how to turn it down a bit! hey ho.
So the question: Do flashes have a shelf life? Should the Metz have gone pop just using it normally on auto? I want my Metz back
Plymouth Photographer