manual focus problems on k10d

ChrisA
Posted 01/08/2007 - 23:11 Link
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amoringello wrote:
he, he... dunno if I can get that past the wife. But I suppose for the price of the DA* lenses, the extra body won't even be noticed.

Now, just have to figure out exactly where can I sell that second kidney?
One, I think, is fair enough. But asking your wife to sacrifice both kidneys is surely a bit much, even for a DA* lens.

G
I reckon all we have to do is diss the K10D JPEG sharpness and shutter noise a bit more and one might just appear on eBay at a reasonable price...
Indeed. But you'll have to sharpen your reactions a bit.

G
I could only ever be the 16-45 to your 31 limited, George.
Tyr
Posted 03/08/2007 - 14:22 Link
Just got the test chart as I've noticed some back focusing problems with my DA 50-200 and A50.
Tyr
Posted 04/08/2007 - 12:21 Link
Well, all my other lenses seem to focus correctly and the camera locks perfectly.

My 50-200 seems to back focus a fair bit. Secondly, it is supposed to keep in focus thought the zoom range. Mine changes focus quite a lot as I zoom which indicates there is something wrong with the lens. It is supposed to be a fixed focus once attained thought the zoom range.

My other lenses show varying amount of minor front or back focus, normal error I'd expect from manual focus or from the autofocus. It has two contrast points it can choose to lock focus above and below the line so I'd expect some minor variation. They are generally quite consistent though.

Ok, so what next... Seem to have established it is the lens. Especially as it failed to lock focus at all at infinity out and about a couple of days ago.

https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5182

Advice, help, suggestions...

I think it needs to go back to Pentax but then I'll be without my telephoto lens
johnriley
Posted 04/08/2007 - 12:42 Link
I'm not sure how accurate the design of the 50-200mm is, but lenses that should keep their focus don't always, and I would imagine the wider the zoom range the less likely focus is to hold.

A zoom technically means focus is kept spot-on as you zoom. A varifocal has to be refocused at every focal length setting. There will be a point where a cheap badly designed "zoom" is actually more of a varifocal. To be honest, I usually refocus after zooming as a matter of habit.

Lenses are not perfect in many respects, bith optical and mechanical.
Best regards, John
Tyr
Posted 04/08/2007 - 12:51 Link
It still won't lock focus correctly at infinity when set to 200mm and seems to be a bit off in other aspects of focusing.
ChrisA
Posted 04/08/2007 - 12:52 Link
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A zoom technically means focus is kept spot-on as you zoom. A varifocal has to be refocused at every focal length setting. There will be a point where a cheap badly designed "zoom" is actually more of a varifocal. To be honest, I usually refocus after zooming as a matter of habit.
The Pentax SMC-FA 28-200 I have needs to be substantially refocused throughout the zoom range, and ISTR someone else (was it Mannesty?) confirmed this as normal for that lens.

I guess it's just a limitation of the design of something with such a big zoom range.

In Tyr's case, I would have thought that if his 50-200 is miles different from his other lenses in terms of where it ends up being focused (for a given focal length setting), then that's grounds enough for getting a replacement. Only once it focuses correctly at all would I be inclined to worry about having to refocus after zooming.
ChrisA
Posted 04/08/2007 - 12:52 Link
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It still won't lock focus correctly at infinity when set to 200mm and seems to be a bit off in other aspects of focusing.
Is it in warranty?

Is it new enough to persuade the shop to exchange it? Fit for purpose and all that...
johnriley
Posted 04/08/2007 - 13:25 Link
Absolutely, take it back as soon as you can.
Best regards, John
Tyr
Posted 04/08/2007 - 13:34 Link
It is now two months old, still in warranty. Bought it online and it is a bit late to send it back now. Can still send it to Pentax for repair or replacement, but they may not do much. Is two months too long to send something back (I think it is)? Really don't want to be without it though But then again the number of shots that are off it may be worth the wait.
johnriley
Posted 04/08/2007 - 13:40 Link
I think that within 28 days you might have been entitled to a replacement, the trouble with web purchases is that you can't get a human being to stretch the rules and do the exchange anyway.

But two months is not long, so I'd give it a go anyway. Write a letter putting your case, keep it polite but firm and hope for the best. It is the suppliers responsibility to sort it out in any event, at least in the UK.

If there is going to be any delay I'd be tempted to buy the Samsung one for £49.99 and get most or all of that back later on via an eBay sale.
Best regards, John
ChrisA
Posted 04/08/2007 - 13:43 Link
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But two months is not long, so I'd give it a go anyway. Write a letter putting your case, keep it polite but firm and hope for the best. It is the suppliers responsibility to sort it out in any event, at least in the UK.
And I believe that if it's clear that the fault has been there since purchase, it presumably wasn't fit for purpose then. Tyr seems to have been agonising about it for some time.

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If there is going to be any delay I'd be tempted to buy the Samsung one for £49.99 and get most or all of that back later on via an eBay sale.
Not at Jacobs any more - it's £99.99 there now. Have you seen it elsewhere at £49.99, John?
johnriley
Posted 04/08/2007 - 13:45 Link
No, the Jacobs offer was what I had in mind. Pity, still, even £99.99 is pretty good.

I think some of the Jessops clearance stores are or have been selling the Pentax version for around £107.00
Best regards, John
Tyr
Posted 04/08/2007 - 14:01 Link
Well, I'll email them and see what they say. If that fails then I can still have it looked at by Pentax.

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