macro lens for ist DS
Posted 17/02/2006 - 18:37
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what would be a good price for a SMC Pentax-M 100mm F:4 macro lens?
Camera:K20D|Ist*DS|Spotmatic II|MZ-10
Pentax Lenses: DA16-45|DA50-200|50A 1.7
Tamron Lenses: 28-200
Takumar Lenses: SMC 55 1.8
Sigma Lenses: EX DG 50-500 'Bigma'|EX 50mm Macro
Flashes: Metz 58 AF-1|Samsung SEF-36PZF|Pentax AF-220T
Pentax Lenses: DA16-45|DA50-200|50A 1.7
Tamron Lenses: 28-200
Takumar Lenses: SMC 55 1.8
Sigma Lenses: EX DG 50-500 'Bigma'|EX 50mm Macro
Flashes: Metz 58 AF-1|Samsung SEF-36PZF|Pentax AF-220T
Posted 17/02/2006 - 18:55
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Hi,
I've been off work today with the flu, so thought I'd practice a bit more with some macro work. I have a little gallery here..
http://www.liamsworld.org.uk/galleries/macro2/ (only 14 images)

30s @ f22 ISO 200
(I was going to post up the one of a match, until my golfing scribbler kindly voluteered to model, seeing as how pencils seem to be the macro image of choice this week)
I used a Promura 28-80 macro zoom with a 2x converter and 2 x 28mm tubes.
I didn't use the full macro potential of the lens.. because I couldn't get any light between the lens and the object, it really can get that close. I'll have to find something transluscent to shoot, just so I can get backlight..
If you have a look at the first image in the gallery, that's some of the portcullis on the back of a 1p piece, to give an idea of scale.
I had to pull out quite a way for anything less flat. I used a hand held flash for some and ambient light for others. Having (as mentioned somewhere else here) a radio transmitter for the flash means that I can just hold it in one hand with the cable release in the other, pointing it in the right direction.
Cheers
Liam
I've been off work today with the flu, so thought I'd practice a bit more with some macro work. I have a little gallery here..
http://www.liamsworld.org.uk/galleries/macro2/ (only 14 images)

30s @ f22 ISO 200
(I was going to post up the one of a match, until my golfing scribbler kindly voluteered to model, seeing as how pencils seem to be the macro image of choice this week)
I used a Promura 28-80 macro zoom with a 2x converter and 2 x 28mm tubes.
I didn't use the full macro potential of the lens.. because I couldn't get any light between the lens and the object, it really can get that close. I'll have to find something transluscent to shoot, just so I can get backlight..
If you have a look at the first image in the gallery, that's some of the portcullis on the back of a 1p piece, to give an idea of scale.
I had to pull out quite a way for anything less flat. I used a hand held flash for some and ambient light for others. Having (as mentioned somewhere else here) a radio transmitter for the flash means that I can just hold it in one hand with the cable release in the other, pointing it in the right direction.
Cheers
Liam
Liam
"Make your hands respond to what your mind demands." Jesse James
Best wide-angle lens? Two steps backward. Look for the 'ah-ha'. Ernst Haas
"Make your hands respond to what your mind demands." Jesse James
Best wide-angle lens? Two steps backward. Look for the 'ah-ha'. Ernst Haas
Posted 17/02/2006 - 19:01
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Liam
"Make your hands respond to what your mind demands." Jesse James
Best wide-angle lens? Two steps backward. Look for the 'ah-ha'. Ernst Haas
"Make your hands respond to what your mind demands." Jesse James
Best wide-angle lens? Two steps backward. Look for the 'ah-ha'. Ernst Haas
Posted 18/02/2006 - 06:07
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Which one should I get, the FA 100 f2.8 Macro or the FA 50 f2.8 Macro? Am I how wrong assuming the 50 being optically superior to the 100?
Which one should I get, the FA 100 f2.8 Macro or the FA 50 f2.8 Macro? Am I how wrong assuming the 50 being optically superior to the 100?
Posted 18/02/2006 - 10:16
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Both should be optically superb. The decsision rests on what working distance you feel you will need for the type of pictures you take. The 100mm will give the same field of view as the 50mm but from double the distance - will this hinder or help?
For example, for photographing documents I find the 100mm needs to be a liittle too far away for convenience, and the 50mm gives a better working distance.
For butterflies and insects it might be an advantage to be further away.
It may also depend on what other lenses you already have. The 100mm makes a fantastic portrait and landscape lens, but if you already have a lens of this length then perhaps that would be a consideration.
For example, for photographing documents I find the 100mm needs to be a liittle too far away for convenience, and the 50mm gives a better working distance.
For butterflies and insects it might be an advantage to be further away.
It may also depend on what other lenses you already have. The 100mm makes a fantastic portrait and landscape lens, but if you already have a lens of this length then perhaps that would be a consideration.
Best regards, John
Posted 18/02/2006 - 10:33
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For digital I'd probably go with the 50mm, and with film my preference would be the 100mm lens.
Posted 18/02/2006 - 11:27
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After seeing Liam's photos I decided to try my Vivitar 55mm macro plus the extension tubes to see what sort of magnification I could get:



All taken handheld @ ISO 200 with a single studio flash head for lighting.
With the macro lens at 1:1 plus the tubes the subject was just about touching the filter ring of the lens. That made lighting difficult so the lens was angled to let some light in, which means not all of the subject is sharply in focus.



All taken handheld @ ISO 200 with a single studio flash head for lighting.
With the macro lens at 1:1 plus the tubes the subject was just about touching the filter ring of the lens. That made lighting difficult so the lens was angled to let some light in, which means not all of the subject is sharply in focus.
Posted 18/02/2006 - 14:59
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Thank you John and Niblue -
yes, this simplified the matter a lot.
I am not good at phographing moving objects, , even if my equipment was. I like models with roots.
My first and so far the only lens is DA 40mm f2.8 Limited because I needed a multi-purpose lens. No matter how much I loved - and still do - my tiny Optio S40 it is not the best for landscape etc. But I have taken some awesome shots with it and the most important thing is it taught me to love photography.
yes, this simplified the matter a lot.
I am not good at phographing moving objects, , even if my equipment was. I like models with roots.
My first and so far the only lens is DA 40mm f2.8 Limited because I needed a multi-purpose lens. No matter how much I loved - and still do - my tiny Optio S40 it is not the best for landscape etc. But I have taken some awesome shots with it and the most important thing is it taught me to love photography.
Posted 17/04/2006 - 01:23
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I owe Pentax an apology. Last night I had a drink in the Bell and Crown, the name of which in gold lettering I pictured earlier in this thread to illustrate an example of chromatic aberration.
Well, last night I noticed that the gold lettering on the sign was edged with dark red. This was what I thought was CA on my trusty old M 400mm.
So, it was nothing of the kind. The lens is absolved of all guilt, and I humbly apologise for suggesting it was anything other than optically damn near perfect.
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Well, last night I noticed that the gold lettering on the sign was edged with dark red. This was what I thought was CA on my trusty old M 400mm.
So, it was nothing of the kind. The lens is absolved of all guilt, and I humbly apologise for suggesting it was anything other than optically damn near perfect.
G
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I see that the one that I can buy is the version introduced in 1998 which is the EX version of the Sigma lens. Now there is a new version called the DG version which according to the marketing blurb on the website optimized for use on digital camera's. Is a digital SLR more picky on lenses than a film SLR?
This afternoon I took my SMCP-M 1:5.6 400mm down to the river to play with it. I haven't really had a chance to do so since getting it late last year.
It performs well enough most of the time, but give it some extreme light conditions, like the reflection off this pub sign, and the CA goes wild.
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